Thanks for the info. Yes I had 3 trick stars back in the day. Some of my favorite bikes. Wish I had them back. But I probably shouldn't build a $3000 bike. I would be afraid to scratch it. But that would be awesome to have. I rode a local park today and still feel awkward on this fit. So I can't have confidence to try harder stuff. Are those hand built GTs the same as the ones out now or something new. I tell you one thing though, if they came out with haritage Redline RL 20II I might loose my mind and go all in! I've always wanted one of those.