Could You Survive Without A Car?
05-09-16, 03:26 PM
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This one asks a question with a poor premise; of course anyone can survive car-free. Heck, I could survive without the bicycle, toilet paper or a fork. I've even survived a couple weeks without running water, electricity, grocery stores or much of anything else that didn't fit in my pockets or come from the land. But like Cody Lundin says, survival sucks; I want to live.
05-09-16, 03:35 PM
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Even posts that promote car-light living are considered to be "toxic and alienating" to some. After all, merely suggesting that people could drive less, or go from two-car to one-car households, or use public transport, or cycle more, is anti-car in the sense that it is a call for less driving and fewer purchases of the cars that you hold sacred.
05-09-16, 04:00 PM
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No, yes, discussing my lifestyle here, so what's the problem? It doesn't say the answer to both or either of the first two questions needs to be "yes".
05-09-16, 04:13 PM
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You think that's the intent? Would you go to the touring forum to make posts about how you have no interest in touring? Maybe you could go to the mtn bike forum and convince them they should be on road bikes instead?
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05-09-16, 05:01 PM
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05-09-16, 05:21 PM
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I experienced both car-light and car-free lifestyle for a few years and I still use my bikes regularly for transportation. I speak from personal experiences and from what I see happening around my city.
05-09-16, 05:58 PM
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Even posts that promote car-light living are considered to be "toxic and alienating" to some. After all, merely suggesting that people could drive less, or go from two-car to one-car households, or use public transport, or cycle more, is anti-car in the sense that it is a call for less driving and fewer purchases of the cars that you hold sacred.
I am barely car-light - two able bodied adults in my family, two cars sitting in the driveway. I've mentioned this multiple times on this forum, and I've NEVER been attacked, criticized or insulted because of my use of a car. People have put forth numerous ideas on how I might reduce or eliminate car use. Just what I'd expect on a "Living Car Free" forum.
But guess what - I don't believe cars are a universal good. I don't think society's increased dependence on them is a good thing. I think they are a horrendous money suck.
I guess you can call me an anti-car car owner. Who is very interested in the topic of Living Car Free. And delighted to find other "car haters" here.
05-09-16, 06:10 PM
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05-09-16, 06:42 PM
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I guess that means we'll have to judge the usefulness of the road racing forum by how the members do in road races. If they don't win races, then the forum must be useless. You know what they say - second place is the first loser. No way are all those folks winning races.
And I wonder what the stats for the bicycle commuting forum are. Plenty of those folks ADMIT to only occasionally commuting by bicycle! Another gigantic forum failure.
I've even seen people who are younger than 50 post in the "50 Plus" forum.
You know, you might be right. These forums are useless, a tremendous waste of time. Internet Brands is going to be so upset when they find out they are not advancing humanity.
05-09-16, 08:38 PM
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If I stumbled upon the boards and there was an open debate like the one we have here on whether you like touring or mountain biking, then I'd participate, yeah. Or what exactly do you think was the OP trying to do when he asked the question if it was supposedly self-evident that everyone's answer would be yes?
05-09-16, 09:29 PM
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Hmmm . . .
I guess that means we'll have to judge the usefulness of the road racing forum by how the members do in road races. If they don't win races, then the forum must be useless. You know what they say - second place is the first loser. No way are all those folks winning races.
And I wonder what the stats for the bicycle commuting forum are. Plenty of those folks ADMIT to only occasionally commuting by bicycle! Another gigantic forum failure.
I've even seen people who are younger than 50 post in the "50 Plus" forum.
You know, you might be right. These forums are useless, a tremendous waste of time. Internet Brands is going to be so upset when they find out they are not advancing humanity.
I guess that means we'll have to judge the usefulness of the road racing forum by how the members do in road races. If they don't win races, then the forum must be useless. You know what they say - second place is the first loser. No way are all those folks winning races.
And I wonder what the stats for the bicycle commuting forum are. Plenty of those folks ADMIT to only occasionally commuting by bicycle! Another gigantic forum failure.
I've even seen people who are younger than 50 post in the "50 Plus" forum.
You know, you might be right. These forums are useless, a tremendous waste of time. Internet Brands is going to be so upset when they find out they are not advancing humanity.
