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Old 09-09-19, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
+1. as in never.
Resistance is futile.

Regardless, it's great news for the retail bicycle industry, I think these rigs are going to create a lotta business for them. Makes it more fun to ride actually, I still get a good workout. More importantly I enjoy it a lot more.
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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
Bravo! At your advanced age an e-bike is totally justified.

Seriously, I have advocated e-bikes for years on the basis of allowing folks of different ability to ride together. As long as everyone is working as hard as they can, I don't see what's wrong with the bike making it possible for them to all stay together on a recreational ride. I would love to be able to climb hills, but simply don't have the wind to do it since my heart attack lo these two decades ago. With a bike like yours I could climb at Lake Tahoe without any trouble at all. Hilly terrain wouldn't have to be off limits. Hmmm!
I might take it on a group ride, but not a competitive ride.

Before all you guys dismiss it, you might try and ride one. And not a big 50lb. clunker, something like the 27 lb. Willier.

Note: although the Competitive Cyclist website claims the rear e-hub motor only provides assistance @ speeds up to 25 kph (16 mph), that turns out to be incorrect. That's for the Euro version. The U.S. version seemed to offer assistance up to 20mph to me, and now I read something on the hub maker's website confirming that.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I might take it on a group ride, but not a competitive ride.

Before all you guys dismiss it, you might try and ride one. And not a big 50lb. clunker, something like the 27 lb. Willier.

Note: although the Competitive Cyclist website claims the rear e-hub motor only provides assistance @ speeds up to 25 kph (16 mph), that turns out to be incorrect. That's for the Euro version. The U.S. version seemed to offer assistance up to 20mph to me, and now I read something on the hub maker's website confirming that.
20mph is REALLY common in the US. Presumably to meet some regulations defining the line between ebike and motorcycle.

Maybe you could program your own controller with a raspberry pi...
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Vochorno. Rhymes with buongiorno. The word that's on everybody's lips these days. Out in the countryside; it doesn't apply in the city. It refers to the extreme humidity radiated from the ground, early in the day, as a result of hot days and daily evening showers. My glasses fog up when I ride into the shade at 80A. It significantly shortens bike rides.
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Old 09-09-19, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
20mph is REALLY common in the US. Presumably to meet some regulations defining the line between ebike and motorcycle.

Maybe you could program your own controller with a raspberry pi...
Oh, there will definitely be a cottage industry for hacking the regulated top speed.
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The rain held out long enough for me to get in a ~30 mile ride - only got wet the last 2 miles or so. The Varia is... good. I'm not ready to declare it the best money that I've spend on cycling crap this year, but I might with a few more rides. One thing that I really like is that, particularly on ****ty roads, I don't feel that I need to be as conservative with picking a clean line through the cracks and potholes. One thing that I'm not so fond of is that it will occasionally drop a car from the warning track when it shadows long enough. In fairness, this typically happens when the car is close enough that it'll be on your personal radar, but still.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I might take it on a group ride, but not a competitive ride.
Rides are going to need rules about this now. That's pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Looks like fun. If you had the choice of riding that on a road bike with 25mm tires vs a CX bike, what would you choose?

Asking for a friend.
CX bike with 40mm tires.
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Originally Posted by datlas
That MUST be the next big thing in cycling.
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Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Finally temps down to the 70's. It's been a long time. My best friend needs temps this low to ride.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I might take it on a group ride, but not a competitive ride.

Before all you guys dismiss it, you might try and ride one. And not a big 50lb. clunker, something like the 27 lb. Willier.

Note: although the Competitive Cyclist website claims the rear e-hub motor only provides assistance @ speeds up to 25 kph (16 mph), that turns out to be incorrect. That's for the Euro version. The U.S. version seemed to offer assistance up to 20mph to me, and now I read something on the hub maker's website confirming that.
It's a Class 1 ebike, assist up to 20 mph. Class 2 has a throttle. Class 3 has assist up to 28 mph.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
The rain held out long enough for me to get in a ~30 mile ride - only got wet the last 2 miles or so. The Varia is... good. I'm not ready to declare it the best money that I've spend on cycling crap this year, but I might with a few more rides. One thing that I really like is that, particularly on ****ty roads, I don't feel that I need to be as conservative with picking a clean line through the cracks and potholes. One thing that I'm not so fond of is that it will occasionally drop a car from the warning track when it shadows long enough. In fairness, this typically happens when the car is close enough that it'll be on your personal radar, but still.
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pcad's next bike will be a Class 3.
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Originally Posted by sbxx1985
pcad's next bike will be a Class 3.
Yet still have the audacity to call people Fredly.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Yet still have the audacity to call people Fredly.
It's part of his charm.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
CX bike with 40mm tires.
I can do that. Was hiking some grassy trails with mrs datlas yesterday, and was thinking that would be great to try on the CX bike. Must find time.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Looks like fun. If you had the choice of riding that on a road bike with 25mm tires vs a CX bike, what would you choose?

Asking for a friend.
For me, it would really depend on how long I'd be on that surface and whether or not I'd spend significant time on pavement, too. If it were less than a quarter of the ride, I'd stick with the skinnies. If it were more than half, CX all the way. In between? Flip a coin, maybe.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Before all you guys dismiss it, you might try and ride one. And not a big 50lb. clunker, something like the 27 lb. Willier.
I have no doubt that it would be a blast, and I would seriously consider something with assist for utilitarian purposes (commuting, errands, family outings, etc), but I'm still too young and prideful to bring a motor to a group ride.
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I have no doubt that it would be a blast, and I would seriously consider something with assist for utilitarian purposes (commuting, errands, family outings, etc), but I'm still too young and prideful to bring a motor to a group ride.
I'm really not sure I'd ever take this on a group ride.

Not that I ever DO group rides anymore. Pcad rides solo. Also I would never want to participate on a ride that would allow me in the pace line.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
Yet still have the audacity to call people Fredly.
Blow me fredly.
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Originally Posted by datlas
It's part of his charm.
Attraction through trash talk: there's an art to it that few master.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
I'm really not sure I'd ever take this on a group ride.

Not that I ever DO group rides anymore. Pcad rides solo. Also I would never want to participate on a ride that would allow me in the pace line.
You will NEVER score some chicks with that solo attitude. Sad!
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
20mph is REALLY common in the US. Presumably to meet some regulations defining the line between ebike and motorcycle.

Maybe you could program your own controller with a raspberry pi...
That speed limit is software controlled, that means it's hackable. That's ok, that's perfect for me. Really flattens out the hills. What will be interesting is hopping back on my regular bicycles after riding this one. It's just another incentive to ride. My life is such a cluster fark right now since my wife left me that if I don't ride I'll really go nuts. I have all these AARP hotties lined up to date me and I keep ghosting them. Not into it yet, and I don't know why. My shrink said it would take a year, and I'm starting to think he was right.

Hey, I'm not drinking over it. THAT's the part that amazes me.
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You will NEVER score some chicks with that solo attitude. Sad!
If only I cared. THAT's the problem. No interest in dating now.
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And trust me boys, I am quite the AARP catch, I have my hair, I'm not obese, I have some financial security and I'm not crazy. What's amazing is the quality of the women available to me in my age bracket. AARP Dating Advantage: men. But dating still sucks. Until it doesn't (you meet the right person). So far it's been a pretty negative experience. So I'm letting it slide for a while. If I keep active on the bike I won't slide into depression.

Not gigging now, I tried a few solo gigs, they went fine, I could re-book, but I just didn't enjoy playing solo very much. THAT's how I could meet women. Not into it.
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