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Anyone have full vid of McEwen's tussle with fan?

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Old 03-28-07, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
how would EPO help a sprinter?
Obviously, you have the same sense of humor as McEwen.
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Old 03-28-07, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by carpediemracing
It's after the TTT in 2004, at least it's on my DVD that I bought of the 2004 Tour.

He just lost the yellow jersey (hence he has yellow shorts on).

the first kid tried to grab it, failed.

second kid grabbed it, got it, breaking the cage and the frame in the process.

McEwen gave the bottle to a kid standing by (which I think was a class move because he's concerned with the principle of the bottle-getting, not the bottle itself - and thieves stealing from him don't seem to impress him).

Only after he gave the bottle away and started to leave did he notice the frame/cage damage. He went back to the kid he grabbed and yelled at him.

On the clip you can hear him say something like "who's going to pay for this? this is a something thousand dollar frame" or something to that effect.

The kid's dad leans over and says something to him too but don't know what it is. Either "next time get the damn bottle" or "ignore him, he has 50 TT bikes in the team truck". Whatever, to me it seems apparent where the kid got the idea it's okay to steal someone's stuff.

You know who pays for that damaged frame? Whoever buys frames from his sponsor. You and me. Well, not me, I pay for TMobile's damaged frames though. And HealthNet I guess.

and on that other side thread, EPO would help a sprinter a LOT - if you're a sprinter and can get over the climbs and can ride with the group to the finish, you'll destroy people in the sprint. EPO would help you get to the finish. It doesn't help the sprint per se - it allows the sprinter to get to the sprint and to have reserves available when he actually does sprint.

one who knows how hard it is to get to the line with everyone,
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Any chance you can make a clip off your tdf dvd?
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
Increased acid buffering; it's not the lactate that causes fatigue but pH reduction.

As lactic acid is being generated it leaves the muscle as lactate, leaving the acidic proton behind. The proton binds to the strongest Lewis base in the system, which is usually a red blood cell protein. The greater the buffering capacity of the muscle and blood, the more stable it is towards the unpleasant pH decrease that turns your legs into burning soup.

WTF??? that is total bullsh8T. Nice try.
 
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Originally Posted by donrhummy
Any chance you can make a clip off your tdf dvd?
I haven't tried to pull a clip off a DVD. I'll give it a shot.
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Old 03-28-07, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DocRay
WTF??? that is total bullsh8T. Nice try.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

We hypothesized that the underlying mechanisms include altered protein expression of transport systems and the enzymes involved in lactate, HCO3- and H+ fluxes in skeletal muscle and erythrocytes.

Together, these changes suggest a hypoxia-induced [home made epo] increase in the capacity for lactate, HCO3- and H+ fluxes from muscle to blood and from blood to erythrocytes.

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Old 03-28-07, 03:00 PM
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DocRay why do you always naysay stuff you know nothing about?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=1733331

Erythrocytes may play an important role in regulating plasma [Lac-] and [K+] with intense exercise.
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...=pubmed_docsum

We hypothesized that the underlying mechanisms include altered protein expression of transport systems and the enzymes involved in lactate, HCO3- and H+ fluxes in skeletal muscle and erythrocytes.

Together, these changes suggest a hypoxia-induced [home made epo] increase in the capacity for lactate, HCO3- and H+ fluxes from muscle to blood and from blood to erythrocytes.
How would EPO increase buffering? Through a higher concentration of blood cells?
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Old 03-28-07, 04:21 PM
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Nothing better than thread hijacking. Mmmmm...
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Originally Posted by DannoXYZ
How would EPO increase buffering? Through a higher concentration of blood cells?
Yes, the increase in RBCs enhance the buffering capacity via several mechanisms.

1) The red blood cells act as a solid “stationary phase” that binds to metabolic byproducts nonspecifically (Langmuir adsorption isotherm) and ion exchange occurs with the diffuse layer that surrounds charged surfaces.



2) CO2/carbonic acid/ bicarbonate balance perturbations due to the erythrocytes carbonic anhydrase enzymes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonic_anhydrase

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Originally Posted by donrhummy
Any chance you can make a clip off your tdf dvd?
Sorry it took a bit of time. Here it is:

2004 Tour TTT Robbie
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Another bit of cyclist revenge

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McEwen is pretty f***en awesome in my books.

And bottom line is he's right, someone does have to pay for those things, even if its not him, and I'm sure they don't need snot-nosed little fans messing up their gear every time they cross the finish line. They let one guy get away with it, everyone is gonna try to do it.

Bet you the little tyke who got to keep the bottle will never try any *****e like that.
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Old 04-05-07, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by bbattle
Another bit of cyclist revenge


*lol* this is my new desktop.
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Old 04-06-07, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
DocRay why do you always naysay stuff you know nothing about?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...t_uids=1733331

Erythrocytes may play an important role in regulating plasma [Lac-] and [K+] with intense exercise.

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you mean this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7O1y...elated&search=
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I beg to differ. "Arguing on the internet" is a winner for us all. If someone is in error, let's hope the edumacated fix it - and entertain us. Your poster with the gal running was interesting. I find humor in South Park's Timmy, but not that. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by Enthalpic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji_XcHvJvac

For those who don't know where this started.
Thanks for posting that! It's a damn cool clip!!
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Originally Posted by grahny
Sort of. That's when the fight occurred, but it escalated to much more than that. Robbie actually ends up going over and grabbing the guy by the shirt but then the clip I saw got cut off. The clip you posted is just the beginning of it. Thanks though!
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This was posted recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7O1yMRYSQo
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Old 04-08-07, 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by leejb2
That's only the beginning of the fight. See my above post.
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Old 04-08-07, 09:33 PM
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There was a good article about him in Pro Cycling magazine this month, it's worth reading.
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Originally Posted by slabby
i have the tdf footage somewhere ... if i remember right, and you could see just a bit from this vid, part of the issue was that the fan almost made him crash.
+1 and they also ripped off the bottle in such a way that they broke the bottle holder (carbon) and possibly damaged the frame. I feel that he was fully justified in his reaction (I have the footage at home, I think it was the 2006 TDF)
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Good ya Robbie!!!
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