Would you be insulted?
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I have used split foam pipe insulation to protect my bike. It is easy to put on and take off; probably easier than all of that painter's tape.
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I think the shop would not be insulted that you're protective of your bike's finish - but they don't know you; the bike might be stolen or damaged already and you're covering something up. So hopefully YOU won't be insulted when they take a lot of before and after photos and run the serial number through the police and check your social media profile for criminal activity and fraud before they accept your service request.
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I think the shop would not be insulted that you're protective of your bike's finish - but they don't know you; the bike might be stolen or damaged already and you're covering something up. So hopefully YOU won't be insulted when they take a lot of before and after photos and run the serial number through the police and check your social media profile for criminal activity and fraud before they accept your service request.
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To put everyone at ease! I removed the tape and will hope my new Madone and its beautiful finish stays unmarred!!
So many interesting assumptions here.
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That makes sense. I just went through something similar where I was forced to take the bike in due to warranty work. I was a nervous wreck.
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Some assumptions:
I'm anal about my bikes
I'm probably gonna be rude
I don't know how to wrench my own bike
I could be hiding something about my bike
etc. etc.
Next time I will provide a complete background on my complete psychological profile and skills of working on my own bikes!
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You mean to tell me that the finish on your bike is so delicate that it must be protected from coming into contact with my grubby monkey hands? Get over it. Buy your self a bike with a quality durable finish. If you think it's too delicate for me, it's too delicate for me.
I'd tell you to get lost and find a mechanic you think is qualified to touch your baby. I wouldn't want the hassle of a customer motivated to find a problem, any problem no matter how small, even if self invented.
Wrap your live human children in bubble wrap, much?
What about the potential damage from removing the tape? The tape will lift paint chips right off. So what then? You're stuck with evidence of bad handling led on by a false sense of security by shop personnel. But, no evidence of where/when it occured. And the shop is stuck with a nit-picky problem customer with nothing but accusations.
The tape says a lot about you. Are you ok with what it says?
I'd tell you to get lost and find a mechanic you think is qualified to touch your baby. I wouldn't want the hassle of a customer motivated to find a problem, any problem no matter how small, even if self invented.
Wrap your live human children in bubble wrap, much?
What about the potential damage from removing the tape? The tape will lift paint chips right off. So what then? You're stuck with evidence of bad handling led on by a false sense of security by shop personnel. But, no evidence of where/when it occured. And the shop is stuck with a nit-picky problem customer with nothing but accusations.
The tape says a lot about you. Are you ok with what it says?
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Wow! Cool reply. Thanks, I'd really not want you to work on my bike. If you don't appreciate my desire to keep hard earned things to be cared for.
I waited since 2006 to be able to buy a new bike. I saved and pondered over what I wanted and I'm just asking if it would be insulting. OK, I get the point, but the tape doesn't say a thing about me! Other than I care about the finish staying nice for a while.
I waited since 2006 to be able to buy a new bike. I saved and pondered over what I wanted and I'm just asking if it would be insulting. OK, I get the point, but the tape doesn't say a thing about me! Other than I care about the finish staying nice for a while.
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Working in auto dealerships, you would be surprised at the number of "ever since you" complaints you get. Things like "ever since you put air in my tires my transmission slips".
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You mean to tell me that the finish on your bike is so delicate that it must be protected from coming into contact with my grubby monkey hands? Get over it. Buy your self a bike with a quality durable finish. If you think it's too delicate for me, it's too delicate for me.
I'd tell you to get lost and find a mechanic you think is qualified to touch your baby. I wouldn't want the hassle of a customer motivated to find a problem, any problem no matter how small, even if self invented.
Wrap your live human children in bubble wrap, much?
What about the potential damage from removing the tape? The tape will lift paint chips right off. So what then? You're stuck with evidence of bad handling led on by a false sense of security by shop personnel. But, no evidence of where/when it occured. And the shop is stuck with a nit-picky problem customer with nothing but accusations.
The tape says a lot about you. Are you ok with what it says?
I'd tell you to get lost and find a mechanic you think is qualified to touch your baby. I wouldn't want the hassle of a customer motivated to find a problem, any problem no matter how small, even if self invented.
Wrap your live human children in bubble wrap, much?
What about the potential damage from removing the tape? The tape will lift paint chips right off. So what then? You're stuck with evidence of bad handling led on by a false sense of security by shop personnel. But, no evidence of where/when it occured. And the shop is stuck with a nit-picky problem customer with nothing but accusations.
The tape says a lot about you. Are you ok with what it says?
fwiw I think my 2019 Madone was scratched by my LBS when they had it for a couple of weeks. Luckily the damage buffed out almost completely and it’s suffered plenty of chips and a £600 carbon repair was needed (below) on a chain stay that had an uncomfortable interaction with the rear mech, since then so I am well over it.
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Wow! Cool reply. Thanks, I'd really not want you to work on my bike. If you don't appreciate my desire to keep hard earned things to be cared for.
I waited since 2006 to be able to buy a new bike. I saved and pondered over what I wanted and I'm just asking if it would be insulting. OK, I get the point, but the tape doesn't say a thing about me! Other than I care about the finish staying nice for a while.
I waited since 2006 to be able to buy a new bike. I saved and pondered over what I wanted and I'm just asking if it would be insulting. OK, I get the point, but the tape doesn't say a thing about me! Other than I care about the finish staying nice for a while.
I think it would be a much better strategy to take the bike in and while handing it over make some comment about the unblemished paint job and how much it pleases you that you got such a perfect specimen from their shop. They'd probably fire the mechanic who caused you to have to find a blemish after confirmation before the fact that the bike was indeed pristine. The way you had planed on would have screamed 'major asshat on the premises' and, depending on how petty a human being you got to do the work, maybe even a grudge gouge, guaranteed to go unnoticed for a good long time.
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I wouldn’t care. I like picky customers who are sane—I can meet high standards and picky customers can give me an opportunity to impress—I just need to be really clear with my communication!
Life’s too short to worry if the local wrench thinks you’re slightly neurotic. Treat them like a professional, communicate clearly, and everything’s gravy.
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IMO, this has been a useful thread for OP. He was concerned that his tape might cause offense and asked for opinions. From the responses he learned the shop might draw additional negative conclusions. OP took it to heart and abandoned the idea. You could even say this is a model BF thread.
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Wow! Cool reply. Thanks, I'd really not want you to work on my bike. If you don't appreciate my desire to keep hard earned things to be cared for.
I waited since 2006 to be able to buy a new bike. I saved and pondered over what I wanted and I'm just asking if it would be insulting. OK, I get the point, but the tape doesn't say a thing about me! Other than I care about the finish staying nice for a while.
I waited since 2006 to be able to buy a new bike. I saved and pondered over what I wanted and I'm just asking if it would be insulting. OK, I get the point, but the tape doesn't say a thing about me! Other than I care about the finish staying nice for a while.
Yes. You got a bike you've been saving for for going on 20 years. It's important to you. So important to you and so irreplaceable that I wouldn't want to take the risk work on it. Business insurance to wouldn't want to take a claim. Small claims is too much hassle. The result is I'd have to eat the cost of everything & still have an unhappy, unsatisfiable customer with probably a very loud mouth and a Yelp account.
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if i were the shop taking on the service(s) ... I'd have to have the owner go over the bicycle with me & point out existing flaws...
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I think it says a great deal, much of which has been pointed out.
I suspect many of our current mechanic friends here have never seen such treatment on a bike presented for service. Certainly, I never saw anything like it in 10 years of wrenching. The responses you're getting are based on the seemingly irrational fear of damage that you seem to have, and the (to me) inane solution you've come up with.
If you feel strongly about it, why not remove the tape, bring the bike into the shop "naked," discuss the issue with your mechanic and ask if you could tape it up in front of them?
I suspect many of our current mechanic friends here have never seen such treatment on a bike presented for service. Certainly, I never saw anything like it in 10 years of wrenching. The responses you're getting are based on the seemingly irrational fear of damage that you seem to have, and the (to me) inane solution you've come up with.
If you feel strongly about it, why not remove the tape, bring the bike into the shop "naked," discuss the issue with your mechanic and ask if you could tape it up in front of them?
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I think it says a great deal, much of which has been pointed out.
I suspect many of our current mechanic friends here have never seen such treatment on a bike presented for service. Certainly, I never saw anything like it in 10 years of wrenching. The responses you're getting are based on the seemingly irrational fear of damage that you seem to have, and the (to me) inane solution you've come up with.
If you feel strongly about it, why not remove the tape, bring the bike into the shop "naked," discuss the issue with your mechanic and ask if you could tape it up in front of them?
I suspect many of our current mechanic friends here have never seen such treatment on a bike presented for service. Certainly, I never saw anything like it in 10 years of wrenching. The responses you're getting are based on the seemingly irrational fear of damage that you seem to have, and the (to me) inane solution you've come up with.
If you feel strongly about it, why not remove the tape, bring the bike into the shop "naked," discuss the issue with your mechanic and ask if you could tape it up in front of them?
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I'd tell them you're midway through experimenting with making the frame match the bar tape.
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