Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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And who REALLY cares if the brakes group-match whatever else is on the bike, if it makes the bike into one that you like riding?
Obviously, I am firmly on the frankenbike side here. But I’m also on the “ride and enjoy your bike in whatever way works” side, too. This entire huge thread is about that concept.
There are so many varieties of great working components, like the Tektro brakes previously mentioned, that will keep our bikes and us happy and safe on the road.
Obviously, I am firmly on the frankenbike side here. But I’m also on the “ride and enjoy your bike in whatever way works” side, too. This entire huge thread is about that concept.
There are so many varieties of great working components, like the Tektro brakes previously mentioned, that will keep our bikes and us happy and safe on the road.
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I fit a set of recessed brakes on a nutted frame by using the front brake on the back, and then using a bolt coupler inside the front fork. I had to grind the coupler down a bit to make it fit but basically it just extends the length of your bolt. a bit of lock tight and you are golden.
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Here is a late 70's early 80's Colnago Super that a friend of mine gave me. It was pretty much a wreck when I got it. Stuck seatpost and stem that had both been sawed off in their tubes and had to be die ground out. Also lots of rust and spray paint. I sold off the campy record bits that it came with and sent it off to Franklin Frames for a repaint with the proceeds. This is a spare parts build. Changed the seatpost to a super record fluted one and plan to throw some carbon tubulars on it if I find the right set.
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@kylarr Just wow!
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@kylarr Just wow!
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Thanks for that. For some reason I always put them on that way. Maybe a lead issue on a bike from long ago? Looking at pictures through this thread, I'm on my own.
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Long story but bottom line is that in a few days I'll be receiving the components below in the mail. They came off what I believe to be an early 1990's Wheeler road bike. Owner knew nothing about them other than they are all Campagnolo except for the shifters and brake levers. Being a Shimano guy myself, I know next to nothing about Campy components as well.
My question is, would this group set be a good candidate for an Ergo setup? @nesteel, what is your opinion of these on the 930 frame? How do these compare to a Dura Ace setup?
My question is, would this group set be a good candidate for an Ergo setup? @nesteel, what is your opinion of these on the 930 frame? How do these compare to a Dura Ace setup?
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That appears to be an A/B Chorus rear derailleur. Not Ergo index compatible, IIRC. Honestly, I'd just pick up a complete group, and if you have to pick up some silver Tekro, or other aftermarket, nutted calipers, so be it. If you go 9 speed, you could use Shimano hubbed wheels (spacing is close enough you'll have no issues), and save a little coin as the Shimano 8/9/10 hubbed wheels are cheap as dirt now. Heck, you can ever convert 7speed hubs to a newer freehub dirt cheap.
It's important to be patient, educate yourself, and shop smart. Earlier this year, I snagged a complete Veloce 9 group, including wheels/tires/cassette, for $200 shipped. Add in the Veloce compact crankset, and I'm riding a decent Ergo group with gearing that won't make me suffer, for a whopping $300.
It's important to be patient, educate yourself, and shop smart. Earlier this year, I snagged a complete Veloce 9 group, including wheels/tires/cassette, for $200 shipped. Add in the Veloce compact crankset, and I'm riding a decent Ergo group with gearing that won't make me suffer, for a whopping $300.
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Thanks for the info. I like the idea of going with Shimano. I've always avoided Campy due to the prices but given the opportunity to get all of these components for just the cost of shipping I couldn't say no. Will definitely keep my eyes open and be patient with group for the 930 build.
That appears to be an A/B Chorus rear derailleur. Not Ergo index compatible, IIRC. Honestly, I'd just pick up a complete group, and if you have to pick up some silver Tekro, or other aftermarket, nutted calipers, so be it. If you go 9 speed, you could use Shimano hubbed wheels (spacing is close enough you'll have no issues), and save a little coin as the Shimano 8/9/10 hubbed wheels are cheap as dirt now. Heck, you can ever convert 7speed hubs to a newer freehub dirt cheap.
It's important to be patient, educate yourself, and shop smart. Earlier this year, I snagged a complete Veloce 9 group, including wheels/tires/cassette, for $200 shipped. Add in the Veloce compact crankset, and I'm riding a decent Ergo group with gearing that won't make me suffer, for a whopping $300.
It's important to be patient, educate yourself, and shop smart. Earlier this year, I snagged a complete Veloce 9 group, including wheels/tires/cassette, for $200 shipped. Add in the Veloce compact crankset, and I'm riding a decent Ergo group with gearing that won't make me suffer, for a whopping $300.
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Here is a late 70's early 80's Colnago Super that a friend of mine gave me. It was pretty much a wreck when I got it. Stuck seatpost and stem that had both been sawed off in their tubes and had to be die ground out. Also lots of rust and spray paint. I sold off the campy record bits that it came with and sent it off to Franklin Frames for a repaint with the proceeds. This is a spare parts build. Changed the seatpost to a super record fluted one and plan to throw some carbon tubulars on it if I find the right set.
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Thanks! It was fun getting back into old road steel. I pretty much sold off all my other vintage stuff because my interests had switched to this:
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Here's the bike I ride the most this time of year:
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Love this thread. So many awesome bikes.
Here's my '87 Ironman Expert. Cannibalized the parts from my other roadie.
This build is going to be short lived as I found a decent deal on a takeoff Rival 22 groupset. The 105 5800 will be going back on the donor bike. Longer stem and Soma Hwy One bars on the way also.
Here's my '87 Ironman Expert. Cannibalized the parts from my other roadie.
This build is going to be short lived as I found a decent deal on a takeoff Rival 22 groupset. The 105 5800 will be going back on the donor bike. Longer stem and Soma Hwy One bars on the way also.
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Gorgeous. What process for paint and prep? How long have you had it (in current form), and how is the paint holding up?
My frame isn't in bad enough shape to justify complete stripping and repainting, but I've been thinking about it just for a new look.
My frame isn't in bad enough shape to justify complete stripping and repainting, but I've been thinking about it just for a new look.
Here is a late 70's early 80's Colnago Super that a friend of mine gave me. It was pretty much a wreck when I got it. Stuck seatpost and stem that had both been sawed off in their tubes and had to be die ground out. Also lots of rust and spray paint. I sold off the campy record bits that it came with and sent it off to Franklin Frames for a repaint with the proceeds. This is a spare parts build. Changed the seatpost to a super record fluted one and plan to throw some carbon tubulars on it if I find the right set.
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This is the photo I used as inspiration. I have always thought this was one of the prettiest bikes ever! I think this photo was from Bicycle Quarterly.
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Rock it!
Love this thread. So many awesome bikes.
Here's my '87 Ironman Expert. Cannibalized the parts from my other roadie.
This build is going to be short lived as I found a decent deal on a takeoff Rival 22 groupset. The 105 5800 will be going back on the donor bike. Longer stem and Soma Hwy One bars on the way also.
Here's my '87 Ironman Expert. Cannibalized the parts from my other roadie.
This build is going to be short lived as I found a decent deal on a takeoff Rival 22 groupset. The 105 5800 will be going back on the donor bike. Longer stem and Soma Hwy One bars on the way also.
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Very Expensive
My process for the paint was to strip the frame of parts, partially media blast the frame, then get distracted. Then, about six months later the process began again, with me this time boxing it up, writing a check for about $400 (super reasonable!) and sending it to Ohio. I got it back about a month later in the same box and built it up. I've had it like this since about July, so no idea how the paint will hold up longterm but it seems nicely done. A lot better than the last repaint I had done at a Seattle shop for about twice the price. I do it to a bike about every 5-10 years. It takes about that long to remember how expensive it is.
This is the photo I used as inspiration. I have always thought this was one of the prettiest bikes ever! I think this photo was from Bicycle Quarterly.
IMG_0159 by leland gibson, on Flickr
This is the photo I used as inspiration. I have always thought this was one of the prettiest bikes ever! I think this photo was from Bicycle Quarterly.
IMG_0159 by leland gibson, on Flickr
Of course, that means that the results are single colour, unless frame and forks are different, but for most restores this is fine, as the decals and head badge provide the decoration. I never use chrome, now.
For really fancy frames, I invested in a small compressor and spray heads. Masking tape and pinstriping tape allow quite fancy designs. I don't have the skill level for shading and hand pinstriping, but as I mostly restore vintage frames I don't usually need to.
When I do have a fancy frame I use a local guy who normally paints motorbikes. Its worth looking locally, and the cost will be a lot less. My track record with sending frames long distance has not been good, with frames misaligned, and with poor paint jobs. With a local guy, you get to see it being worked on.
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My son's 1989 Club Fuji. I found it at a yard sale about 10 years ago really cheap. The seat post was stuck and tires were rotten, ant the seat was shredded, but it had all the original parts. I got it road worthy, but my son was not a fan of the downtube shifters after crashing while reaching down to shift. I found a pair of 105 brake/shift levers for $5 at an antique mall, so I put those on. They were 8 speed and while they worked okay with the 7 speed hub, he needed better gearing, since he isn't in the flat lands any more. The crash mess up the rear wheel and I wasn't able to get it completely straight. Today I swapped in a set of wheels, found at another yard sale, with an 8 speed 11-30 cassette. The shifting is much better, too.
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My son's 1989 Club Fuji. I found it at a yard sale about 10 years ago really cheap. The seat post was stuck and tires were rotten, ant the seat was shredded, but it had all the original parts. I got it road worthy, but my son was not a fan of the downtube shifters after crashing while reaching down to shift. I found a pair of 105 brake/shift levers for $5 at an antique mall, so I put those on. They were 8 speed and while they worked okay with the 7 speed hub, he needed better gearing, since he isn't in the flat lands any more. The crash mess up the rear wheel and I wasn't able to get it completely straight. Today I swapped in a set of wheels, found at another yard sale, with an 8 speed 11-30 cassette. The shifting is much better, too.
Perhaps some day your son will post here, as well. Way to go. Made my day.
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My son's 1989 Club Fuji. I found it at a yard sale about 10 years ago really cheap. The seat post was stuck and tires were rotten, ant the seat was shredded, but it had all the original parts. I got it road worthy, but my son was not a fan of the downtube shifters after crashing while reaching down to shift. I found a pair of 105 brake/shift levers for $5 at an antique mall, so I put those on. They were 8 speed and while they worked okay with the 7 speed hub, he needed better gearing, since he isn't in the flat lands any more. The crash mess up the rear wheel and I wasn't able to get it completely straight. Today I swapped in a set of wheels, found at another yard sale, with an 8 speed 11-30 cassette. The shifting is much better, too.
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Didn't like my Record 10 group, put a 5800 group on the MX Leader.
I'll probably put the greenwall Vittoria Open Paves back on, though.
I'll probably put the greenwall Vittoria Open Paves back on, though.