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For that amount of cash, Kevin Costner needs to deliver it, Breaking Away Masi might have me interested providing Dave would deliver.....
For that amount of cash, Kevin Costner needs to deliver it, Breaking Away Masi might have me interested providing Dave would deliver.....
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This 1988 Centurion has the coveted Japaneese Tange #1 Steel Seamless (double butted) "Infinity" Tubing Frame and Forks
This 1988 Centurion has the coveted Japaneese Tange #1 Steel Seamless (double butted) "Infinity" Tubing Frame and Forks
Infinity and Tange 1 (which the IM series used on most models prior to '88) were both "Cro-Mo" steel but Infinity was a seamed tube with "tapered" internal butting which had smooth/gradual transitions between the thick and thin walls, where the Tange 1 (or 2 thru 5 , I will recon) were all seamless-drawn tubes with more 'abrupt' transitions between the butted and un-butted sections.
Most would consider seamless tubing (even of the same metal) to be the more "premium" and I do think that the top number "Champion 1 or 2" tubesets sold for more than Infinity (which was less expensive to manufacture)
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a minor quibble (but could be important to a buyer) if this 1988 is built with Tange Infinity tubing it's NOT Tange No. 1 (or Tange Champion No. 1), they are not the same tubeset.
Infinity and Tange 1 (which the IM series used on most models prior to '88) were both "Cro-Mo" steel but Infinity was a seamed tube with "tapered" internal butting which had smooth/gradual transitions between the thick and thin walls, where the Tange 1 (or 2 thru 5 , I will recon) were all seamless-drawn tubes with more 'abrupt' transitions between the butted and un-butted sections.
Most would consider seamless tubing (even of the same metal) to be the more "premium" and I do think that the top number "Champion 1 or 2" tubesets sold for more than Infinity (which was less expensive to manufacture)
Infinity and Tange 1 (which the IM series used on most models prior to '88) were both "Cro-Mo" steel but Infinity was a seamed tube with "tapered" internal butting which had smooth/gradual transitions between the thick and thin walls, where the Tange 1 (or 2 thru 5 , I will recon) were all seamless-drawn tubes with more 'abrupt' transitions between the butted and un-butted sections.
Most would consider seamless tubing (even of the same metal) to be the more "premium" and I do think that the top number "Champion 1 or 2" tubesets sold for more than Infinity (which was less expensive to manufacture)
this one is Tange #1, pic from ad
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All Original Vintage 51cm Specialized Sirrus Road Bike - $275 San Diego
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A bit pricey imo, but in nice original condition.
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My 1989 IronMan was Tange 1.
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This one looks familiar... 
Yup, definitely saw this one a while ago. Can't believe a seller calling interested parties "wankers" hasn't sold the bike yet...
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Yup, definitely saw this one a while ago. Can't believe a seller calling interested parties "wankers" hasn't sold the bike yet...
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I wasn't sure so did some research: seems that all the STEEL Ironmans (ironmen?) frames starting in 1985 until line was ended in late 1989-90 they were Tange seamless tubing and called either "Champion No. 1" in '85 but thereafter called just "No. 1" or "1".
in '89 the frames were TiG-welded (no head or seat lugs) but Taiwan (or Japan) builders still used Tange 1 tubing, might not have been the ideal tubing choice for that technique, but...haven't heard any complaints.
(repeating hearsay now so take it FWIW) Technically there were 2 carbon-fiber "Ironman" frames (one called Ironman in '88 and another called Carbon R '88 and '89) but both bonded frames were not so reliable (bonding came loose on some, lugs could crack) and Centurion only offered them for those (1 or) 2 years. Here's some better hearsay:
"The Carbon Ironman was equipped with tricolor while the Carbon R was equipped with Dura Ace.
The Carbon Ironman was a one year release '88 while the Carbon R was two years, both '88 and '89.
One thing I would caution against is replacing the fork. To reduce the flex some (RT) have tried replacing the fork with a more rigid one and had disastrous affects. I think the flexy sexy fork helps prolong frame life."
The IM lived on after '89 but became TiG-welded Diamondback TG models that were reportedly same geometry (and "marble-fade" paint) as the previous Centurion Expert and Master models...and assuming still built with Tange 1 but...? And these DBs were not marketed or labeled as "Ironman", that franchise was over.
in '89 the frames were TiG-welded (no head or seat lugs) but Taiwan (or Japan) builders still used Tange 1 tubing, might not have been the ideal tubing choice for that technique, but...haven't heard any complaints.
(repeating hearsay now so take it FWIW) Technically there were 2 carbon-fiber "Ironman" frames (one called Ironman in '88 and another called Carbon R '88 and '89) but both bonded frames were not so reliable (bonding came loose on some, lugs could crack) and Centurion only offered them for those (1 or) 2 years. Here's some better hearsay:
"The Carbon Ironman was equipped with tricolor while the Carbon R was equipped with Dura Ace.
The Carbon Ironman was a one year release '88 while the Carbon R was two years, both '88 and '89.
One thing I would caution against is replacing the fork. To reduce the flex some (RT) have tried replacing the fork with a more rigid one and had disastrous affects. I think the flexy sexy fork helps prolong frame life."
The IM lived on after '89 but became TiG-welded Diamondback TG models that were reportedly same geometry (and "marble-fade" paint) as the previous Centurion Expert and Master models...and assuming still built with Tange 1 but...? And these DBs were not marketed or labeled as "Ironman", that franchise was over.
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This Roberts was $300 a month ago.
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Edit: Re-listed at $475 https://offerup.com/item/detail/1643680401
Fuso -$550 - Pico Rivera, CA
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Rivendell Romulus - $700 - Bellflower, CA
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Cyclofiend: RBW: Romulus: Flyer
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wonder what year this is? Interesting Fork panto
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run, fly, teleport!
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wonder what year this is? Interesting fork panto
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in '89 the frames were TiG-welded (no head or seat lugs) but Taiwan (or Japan) builders still used Tange 1 tubing, might not have been the ideal tubing choice for that technique, but...haven't heard any complaints.
The IM lived on after '89 but became TiG-welded Diamondback TG models that were reportedly same geometry (and "marble-fade" paint) as the previous Centurion Expert and Master models...and assuming still built with Tange 1 but...? And these DBs were not marketed or labeled as "Ironman", that franchise was over.
The IM lived on after '89 but became TiG-welded Diamondback TG models that were reportedly same geometry (and "marble-fade" paint) as the previous Centurion Expert and Master models...and assuming still built with Tange 1 but...? And these DBs were not marketed or labeled as "Ironman", that franchise was over.
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik...683276114.html
For that amount of cash, Kevin Costner needs to deliver it,
For that amount of cash, Kevin Costner needs to deliver it,
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