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Old 07-14-13, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
After dopes like Lance do you really think anyone would try to win dirty today?
Human nature being what it is, absolutely.
Remember, a popular place for pick pockets to ply their trade in nineteenth century England was at a hanging....where the unfortunate culprit being hung was guilty of only theft.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
You're right - all doping has magically disappeared.
...and advancements in training, technology and human evolution have made it possible that in a few short years the peloton is as fast or faster than any enhanced peloton ever.

it is magical.
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Old 07-14-13, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad
My immensity is considerable. I am looking forward to the de-immensification process. I have two absolutely wonderful pro-level Scott racing bicycles in my garage calling my name.

'Fatso' they whisper as I walk to my car each day.
Maybe they are really just whispering " hey immenseness "
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Old 07-14-13, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Herbie53
...and advancements in training, technology and human evolution have made it possible that in a few short years the peloton is as fast or faster than any enhanced peloton ever.

it is magical.
What the peloton was is irrelevant. What the peloton is is what drives human behavior.
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Old 07-14-13, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by surgeonstone
Maybe they are really just whispering " hey immenseness "
I don't think even Chris has as big a head.

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Old 07-14-13, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
The stage is over spoiler?

Yes De Tour is spoiled but you can thank Chris for that.
#wut
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Old 07-14-13, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
You're right - all doping has magically disappeared.
Just ask Pat.

Originally Posted by McQuaid
I think the media have to understand the riders of today don’t deserve to be judged on the mistakes of their predecessors, of the riders of a generation of the past now. Riders of today need to be respected for what they are trying to do, which is to race clean and race without a doping program.
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Old 07-14-13, 10:07 AM
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Speaking of bike riding, I just took my first ride in about 12 months. Just 12 miles, but the ice is finally broken.

I just couldn't get into it when spring arrived this year. I kept pushing the start button but nothing was happening. The urge, the crave - it just wasn't there. I wasn't even missing it, I easily found other things to do.

Looking back I can attribute it to the disruption caused by a major kitchen job we had to do last summer. I was riding up until then, but along the way the chaos just became too much and I stopped. I couldn't even get back into the gym during the winter . . . there was nothing.

But the lack of fitness recently started taking it's toll. Although I only gained 6 lbs it seems they were all around the abdomen, and it there is one thing that will motivate me into action . . . it's a gut. Plus the lyme-damaged knee was starting to act up so I knew that was a cry to strengthen those support muscles and ligaments.

So I've started again. Ahhhhhhhhh, the endorphins . . . . feels great!
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Old 07-14-13, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by v70cat
After dopes like Lance do you really think anyone would try to win dirty today?
anybody who is following Team Sky closely sees an exact reprise of USPS/Discovery From Behaviour (since they are British), to secrecy, to the script that they follow. Richie Porte (a domestique) outclimbed most of the elite climbers today!! That says something. Unless you really believe that they are training harder and better than everyone else.
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Old 07-14-13, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Speaking of bike riding, I just took my first ride in about 12 months. Just 12 miles, but the ice is finally broken.

I just couldn't get into it when spring arrived this year. I kept pushing the start button but nothing was happening. The urge, the crave - it just wasn't there. I wasn't even missing it, I easily found other things to do.

Looking back I can attribute it to the disruption caused by a major kitchen job we had to do last summer. I was riding up until then, but along the way the chaos just became too much and I stopped. I couldn't even get back into the gym during the winter . . . there was nothing.

But the lack of fitness recently started taking it's toll. Although I only gained 6 lbs it seems they were all around the abdomen, and it there is one thing that will motivate me into action . . . it's a gut. Plus the lyme-damaged knee was starting to act up so I knew that was a cry to strengthen those support muscles and ligaments.

So I've started again. Ahhhhhhhhh, the endorphins . . . . feels great!
Welcome back sheriff!
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Speaking of bike riding, I just took my first ride in about 12 months. Just 12 miles, but the ice is finally broken.

I just couldn't get into it when spring arrived this year. I kept pushing the start button but nothing was happening. The urge, the crave - it just wasn't there. I wasn't even missing it, I easily found other things to do.

Looking back I can attribute it to the disruption caused by a major kitchen job we had to do last summer. I was riding up until then, but along the way the chaos just became too much and I stopped. I couldn't even get back into the gym during the winter . . . there was nothing.

But the lack of fitness recently started taking it's toll. Although I only gained 6 lbs it seems they were all around the abdomen, and it there is one thing that will motivate me into action . . . it's a gut. Plus the lyme-damaged knee was starting to act up so I knew that was a cry to strengthen those support muscles and ligaments.

So I've started again. Ahhhhhhhhh, the endorphins . . . . feels great!
Welcome back.
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Old 07-14-13, 11:04 AM
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I just took my first ride in about 12 months.
#wut
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Originally Posted by DropDeadFred
I leave for a few months and the front page is loaded with a crap ton of stickies
@DropDeadFred, I lobbied to have some of the stickies removed, but for whatever reason no one seems to care how I think the forum should be run.
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Old 07-14-13, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Speaking of bike riding, I just took my first ride in about 12 months. Just 12 miles, but the ice is finally broken.

WOAH! Welcome back!!!

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Old 07-14-13, 11:23 AM
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This being the Couples' Tri, individuals were shoved into general M/F categories, so I got 5th/14. Ugh. Will compare the bike and transitions to my times at the same venue (different swim/ run courses) and see if those, at least, got quicker.

Plus side, looking forward to that date tonight, and may have found a cool tri team.
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Good deal Billy! I was off the bike for twenty years, and still haven't figured out why. Good you found it again.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
I was off the bike for twenty years
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Originally Posted by BillyD
Speaking of bike riding, I just took my first ride in about 12 months. Just 12 miles, but the ice is finally broken.

I just couldn't get into it when spring arrived this year. I kept pushing the start button but nothing was happening. The urge, the crave - it just wasn't there. I wasn't even missing it, I easily found other things to do.

Looking back I can attribute it to the disruption caused by a major kitchen job we had to do last summer. I was riding up until then, but along the way the chaos just became too much and I stopped. I couldn't even get back into the gym during the winter . . . there was nothing.

But the lack of fitness recently started taking it's toll. Although I only gained 6 lbs it seems they were all around the abdomen, and it there is one thing that will motivate me into action . . . it's a gut. Plus the lyme-damaged knee was starting to act up so I knew that was a cry to strengthen those support muscles and ligaments.

So I've started again. Ahhhhhhhhh, the endorphins . . . . feels great!
Good to hear you're back on. I find if I miss a couple of days the fear of strength loss paradoxically keeps me off the bike even longer, not wanting to confront the loss. But as one of the 41'ers says in his byline, " There are many days where I have not wanted to ride but there has never been a day I regretted riding".
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I know. I rode a ton in late 80's, into 1990. Bought my Schwinn new at that time. Started commuting on the Schwinn again in 08. So, not quite 20 years, but close.
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Originally Posted by v70cat
Is this a insult or just a statement of the fact?
yes
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
I haven't really seen much info about the case (What were the circumstances surrounding the confrontation? How many warning shots? In the air or "across the bow," so to speak?), but on the surface it seems absurd.
I cant believe we are seeing the whole storey. I call shenanigans.
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Guess I was essentially off the bicycle from '92-'02. A little recreational riding the next couple years. Ramped up the riding in '04.
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I was on my bike constantly until a crash sophomore yr of college and couldnt afford to replace my bike. Bought a mtn bike 4 yrs later, used it for 6 yrs then stopped riding until 2000. Bought a road bike and rode for a year and put it aside again (don't know why). Started up again in 2008 and now don't plan on stopping.
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Originally Posted by ls01
I cant believe we are seeing the whole storey. I call shenanigans.
Herbie linked to an interview with the state prosecutor. It's a 30-min long convo, but yeah, what's in the papers isn't close to the whole story. Not only was the "warning shot" in the direction of her husband (as opposed to pointing up, which most people would assume), but her two boys were also with her husband, leaving the premises, so she shot in the direction of her own kids (this is confirmed by the kids' testimony).
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Thanks gents, it's good to be back. Often when one stops their exercise routine it's hard to get going again.
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