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I'm somewhat handicapped from the fact I know of no other SS/fixed riders in the area, meaning I have to work a lot of this out without real-world assistance - I managed to get into the SS thing without any peer pressure whatsoever. I'm not sure that it's so much that it has to be "stock" as that I want a nice frameset with horizontal dropouts and 2 brakes, and I don't hate the convenience of not having to figure everything out myself (particularly since I am still learning a lot of this, and I seem to find a new size/thread/complication every damn time I try something new).
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Holy crap expensive. I have never heard of this bike before seeing this thread, but as has been pointed out, 18.7 pounds is actually kind of heavy for a carbon frame singlespeed.
Comparatively:
https://www.wabicycles.com/lightning_...ec_orng11.html
$900, 15.1 pounds (?!), scandium frame, SS, brakes
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...alforce_10.htm
$1600, 16.75 pounds, carbon frame, ultegra components
Comparatively:
https://www.wabicycles.com/lightning_...ec_orng11.html
$900, 15.1 pounds (?!), scandium frame, SS, brakes
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...alforce_10.htm
$1600, 16.75 pounds, carbon frame, ultegra components
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Holy crap expensive. I have never heard of this bike before seeing this thread, but as has been pointed out, 18.7 pounds is actually kind of heavy for a carbon frame singlespeed.
Comparatively:
https://www.wabicycles.com/lightning_...ec_orng11.html
$900, 15.1 pounds (?!), scandium frame, SS, brakes
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...alforce_10.htm
$1600, 16.75 pounds, carbon frame, ultegra components
Comparatively:
https://www.wabicycles.com/lightning_...ec_orng11.html
$900, 15.1 pounds (?!), scandium frame, SS, brakes
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...alforce_10.htm
$1600, 16.75 pounds, carbon frame, ultegra components
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Don't forget that it includes a chain guard to protect skinny jeans and a beernuts tool, which probably adds several pounds weight. But, seriously, a SRAM S300 crank on a $1600 bike ?
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Holy crap expensive. I have never heard of this bike before seeing this thread, but as has been pointed out, 18.7 pounds is actually kind of heavy for a carbon frame singlespeed.
Comparatively:
https://www.wabicycles.com/lightning_...ec_orng11.html
$900, 15.1 pounds (?!), scandium frame, SS, brakes
Comparatively:
https://www.wabicycles.com/lightning_...ec_orng11.html
$900, 15.1 pounds (?!), scandium frame, SS, brakes
https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...alforce_10.htm
$1600, 16.75 pounds, carbon frame, ultegra components
$1600, 16.75 pounds, carbon frame, ultegra components
The big question for me is the frame - if it is decent then it might be worth it for me (borderline - I'm not arguing that there is a price premium here, but maybe). If it isn't then it definitely isn't. Since no-one has seen one it's a bit of a tough call.
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Add both brakes, drops and real brake levers and its probably not going to be 15 pounds. Still impressively light though, just not really what I was looking for. A year ago I would probably have seriously considered buying this though (although probably not in tangerine). Haven't seen a scandium frame in ages.
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True, and also that weight is based on a fixed cog + lockring, which is a lot lighter than a single freewheel. Still, it will be a good 2 pounds lighter and $700 cheaper than the Trek, which is not customizable the way the Wabi is. The Wabi also comes in a very nice sparkle black as well. Still, it's clear that you've got a hard on for the Trek, so why don't you buy the dang thing and stop arguing with everyone about alternate suggestions. BTW, I just bought a Wabi Lightning in black, and like it a bunch.
I linked the Bikesdirect carbon road bike for comparison, because it is:
1) The same price (for comparison)
2) Carbon frame (since you seem to want carbon)
3) Lighter
4) Has Ultegra components (i.e. is an entire road bike yet still lighter than the Felt.)
Comparatively, if I were given $1600 to spend, I would probably buy this instead: https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/...heat_rival.htm
(I like titanium. )
In other words, even if I were to ever spend $1600 on a singlespeed bike (ha!), the Felt is not $1600 worth of bike. If you wanted advice, the Wabi seems like an excellent choice for you. If you wanted us to convince you to buy the Felt, well, see TT's post.
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True, and also that weight is based on a fixed cog + lockring, which is a lot lighter than a single freewheel. Still, it will be a good 2 pounds lighter and $700 cheaper than the Trek, which is not customizable the way the Wabi is. The Wabi also comes in a very nice sparkle black as well. Still, it's clear that you've got a hard on for the Trek, so why don't you buy the dang thing and stop arguing with everyone about alternate suggestions. BTW, I just bought a Wabi Lightning in black, and like it a bunch.
I also don't have a hard-on for the Trek. That's insulting. I have a hard-on for the Felt.
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I hope you do realize that sarcasm is very, very poorly conveyed through the written word (and relatedly, the internet), and what you may view as just being sarcastic or a joke comes off as being dickish instead.
Just saying.
Just saying.
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I have that Felt. It is the nicest bike I have ever ridden. You wont regret purchasing it. It definitely gets my stamp of approval.
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I'm going to apologize immediately for the above, since you probably have a point, have given some useful suggestions, and don't really deserve it, but since you just pointed out I am a sarcastic dick I may as well get some mileage out of it. Smiley face .
So in conclusion, I have found the one bike in the world that no-one in the world has ridden. I should buy a completely different bike because it's lighter. I should buy a completely different bike with gears because it's better value (odd advice for a SS forum perhaps, but OK), and I should buy a 12k bike because I have more money than sense. And someone decided to register the username "muppetmower". He may also be a sarcastic dick.
Got it. Should probably spend more time riding and less time seeking strangers opinions on the interwebs.
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I was under the impression that this was one of the things you were looking for, so I made suggestions accordingly.
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I HAVE NOTHING TO ADD TO THIS THREAD BUT HAVE ENJOYED READING IT. ALSO, I REALLY ENJOY THAT deademeat SIGNS HIS NAME AFTER EVERY POST. I WANT TO START DOING THAT. <straight face. loud voice. no sarcasm>
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I don't get it. My aluminum langster weight at 19lbs completely stock. I guess you are not doing it for weight?
Are you getting blinded by the carbon factor? When looking for my track machine, I looked at carbon, but found an aluminum bike I fell in love with. Yeah, it costs over twice as much as the langster, but is much faster. It weighs 15 lbs, but weight isn't the only consideration.
The langster is pretty bulletproof - which is nice for commuting (the brakes come in handy in traffic too!)
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Sounds like you want one. Do it. If you're commuting and training on the same thing this actually seem like it would make sense for you.
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I'm not against putting an S300 on a sub $1K bike, but it has no business being used on a $1600 bike like that Felt, which deserves something higher quality such as an Omnonom. It would be the same problem if they put an Andel on it, which I like on my cheaper FG bikes like the Leader 721tr, but wouldn't dream of using on the Pista Concept. Consider that the Felt TK2, which also has an MSRP of $1600 does in fact come with Omnonoms.
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I don't get it. My aluminum langster weight at 19lbs completely stock. I guess you are not doing it for weight?
Are you getting blinded by the carbon factor? When looking for my track machine, I looked at carbon, but found an aluminum bike I fell in love with. Yeah, it costs over twice as much as the langster, but is much faster. It weighs 15 lbs, but weight isn't the only consideration.
The langster is pretty bulletproof - which is nice for commuting (the brakes come in handy in traffic too!)
Are you getting blinded by the carbon factor? When looking for my track machine, I looked at carbon, but found an aluminum bike I fell in love with. Yeah, it costs over twice as much as the langster, but is much faster. It weighs 15 lbs, but weight isn't the only consideration.
The langster is pretty bulletproof - which is nice for commuting (the brakes come in handy in traffic too!)
Since no-one knows a damn thing about it, other than the fact that it comes with a Beernutz tool, we have pretty much come full circle, I'll just go ahead and say it.
Kilo TT.
Unless I can find one to actually tryout somewhere local this whole thread is pretty much entirely moot since I shall just continue to ride my Langster until it falls apart, so I hope everyone is at least entertained.
Dave