Making the 3Rensho I can't afford
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Why have you always wanted a 3Rensho? Was it the geometry, the tubing, the craftsmanship?
I think you did a good job with the paint and decals, and I don't want to sound harsh, but I just don't see the point of it all - it's still a Centurion.
At least if you swap the slant 6 in your Dodge Dart for a Hemi it will go faster.
I think you did a good job with the paint and decals, and I don't want to sound harsh, but I just don't see the point of it all - it's still a Centurion.
At least if you swap the slant 6 in your Dodge Dart for a Hemi it will go faster.
I will never give up my "Centurian".
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On this hallowed Christmas Eve, let's remember to celebrate the spirit of human kindness by reminding everyone that we should wish eternal damnation upon the prop department of Breaking Away for making a Free Spirit into a Masi.
We all know that the only ethical thing to do was to wreck the real one.
Oh, and the same to Eon Productions for trying to pass off a Porsche 928 as a DB5 and making fake DB5s. Blasphemous!
-Kurt
We all know that the only ethical thing to do was to wreck the real one.
Oh, and the same to Eon Productions for trying to pass off a Porsche 928 as a DB5 and making fake DB5s. Blasphemous!
-Kurt
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On this hallowed Christmas Eve, let's remember to celebrate the spirit of human kindness by reminding everyone that we should wish eternal damnation upon the prop department of Breaking Away for making a Free Spirit into a Masi.
We all know that the only ethical thing to do was to wreck the real one.
Oh, and the same to Eon Productions for trying to pass off a Porsche 928 as a DB5 and making fake DB5s. Blasphemous!
-Kurt
We all know that the only ethical thing to do was to wreck the real one.
Oh, and the same to Eon Productions for trying to pass off a Porsche 928 as a DB5 and making fake DB5s. Blasphemous!
-Kurt
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So what do you think......does this look more like a De Rosa or Ciocc?
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-Kurt
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I’ve said it before. Never could justify buying a Rolex. Last time in HK bought 4 = $40. Whenever I check the time, it just doesn’t ‘feel’ right.
Good onya for saving a frame! And riding your dream, if it works for you.
Good onya for saving a frame! And riding your dream, if it works for you.
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Again, I think he did a great job with the bike and I have no problem with replicas. But just because other members are critical about lack of fraud prevention doesn't mean he should be calling forum members snobs.
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Let the man enjoy his 3Spoofso. He stamped the BB, which should satisfy even the biggest critic. Anyone throwing shade at the OP after the photo evidence of the BB shell is only justifying that they've got nothing better to do then be a petty pain in the butt.
-Kurt
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When I joined the Reserves years ago a lot of the guys in the unit had Rolexes. I found out they were buying them off some jeweler in the Middle East who bought Rolex movements in bulk somehow and put them in his own, much cheaper, cases and bands. caveat emptor
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Fuel for the fire
Why? Yes, yes and yes. Bite your tongue. It is not your daddies Centurion. It was designed by Yoshi Kono, one of the best frame makers ever. It was crafted from double butted Ishiwata 017-019 tubing, very thin and light. In race trim, with Clement silk tires on Fiamme Yellow rims, my 3Rensho was a sub 20 lb bike in 1981. Not bad for the time. With a high bottom bracket and steep head tube angle, it handles wonderfully in criteriums.
I will never give up my "Centurian".
I will never give up my "Centurian".
I have no doubt the OP had good intentions stamping the bottom bracket but I do take some issue with the word "replica" being used because it simply isn't true.
I guess if it makes you smile that's enough.
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My point exactly. The OP's bike has none of the attributes that make a real 3Rensho desirable. I still don't understand how it can be a worthwhile substitute.
I have no doubt the OP had good intentions stamping the bottom bracket but I do take some issue with the word "replica" being used because it simply isn't true.
I guess if it makes you smile that's enough.
Happy Holidays
I have no doubt the OP had good intentions stamping the bottom bracket but I do take some issue with the word "replica" being used because it simply isn't true.
I guess if it makes you smile that's enough.
Happy Holidays
-Kurt
P.S.: Posting your personal vindication of the OP after you've also personally judged the OP doesn't excuse the fact that you just passed judgement on the OP.
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You are correct, I take back what I said about the OP's satisfaction with the fake bike. It is not a substitute for a real 3Rensho and I don't understand how anyone could think it was because of a decal.
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We built up a circa '98 Litespeed for Laurie, which she loves but the graphics were ugly.
Found this Uranus head badge, and some Rollfast downtube decals. I don't worry that someone is going to think it's a Uranus, or a Rollfast.
What wasn't done yet when this pic was taken, the pièce de résistance: Remove the ugly titanium tubing sticker at the top of the seat tube, and replace with this:
At least that decal is technically accurate.
Found this Uranus head badge, and some Rollfast downtube decals. I don't worry that someone is going to think it's a Uranus, or a Rollfast.
What wasn't done yet when this pic was taken, the pièce de résistance: Remove the ugly titanium tubing sticker at the top of the seat tube, and replace with this:
At least that decal is technically accurate.
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Everyone knows that @Bianchigirll's 2 wheeler isn't a Ciocc or DeRosa. It's a Betty - valued for its' uniqueness. I keep searching for one.
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I think the thread has run it's course. Should it be shut down, or allowed to slowly drift to the bottom of the first page. There it can slip off the first page like a ship sinking under the surface on it's way to a watery grave.
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I think some of you are pretty upset about this and I find that interesting because if I had redone this back to original I think the same people would have probably said something like,,"Why did you do that its just a cheap worthless frame" "Why didn't you invest in a real bike" "Why are you wasting your time".
So while yes your hypothetical could have possibly happened, whatbhas happend is ooposite of that, even though everyone knows the frame.
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Specialized put their name on Rensho frames to make the original Allez. Bianchi sold bikes made by someone in Japan. Giant built frames for many other companies. Many bicycle companies have some or all their frames made by other companies and put their name on them. Essentially what I did only on a very large scale. Even Chevrolet puts their name on foreign cars to market here in the USA.
Please dont try and go this route as they arent comparable and it's completely absurd.
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could have seen this one coming....B.A. Replica all over again!
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If you like something about the brand that's more than just skin deep, well this doesn't have that. If you just like the aesthetics, well I suppose you could have gotten spoof brand decals made, but no one is really stopping you from using replica decals. If you convince yourself that rebranding a frame with someone else's brand is exactly the same as what's done by large companies, I don't know what to say.
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