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Old 04-16-19, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by datlas
To where??
I have off Friday. Just to Belleplain State Forest in Woodbine, NJ, which is roughly inland from Sea Isle City. Tow miles from my house PATCo then 54 miles from Lindenwold to the forest, with a Wawa strategically located at mile 27. Saturday I will take a day ride to either the Cape May County Zoo or over to the Delaware Bay at East Point. Sunday I will reverse course and ride back to Lindenwold. Normally I would ride into Ocean City, grab breakfast and then head to A.C. to catch the train home, but the A.C. line has been out of service since the fall to install Positive Train Control. It was supposed to be back running already, but delays have pushed re-opening until just before Memorial Day.

I was considering French Creek, but as of this moment there are only two sites left in the entire place. I have camped there when it's full. Bit too much of a circus atmosphere for me.
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Old 04-16-19, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Which Haanjo is it? Might have the Praxis M30 BB adaptor which has external bearings but installs on PF BBs.
It's an aluminum 105 model, 2016, I think. I'll take a pic of the BB when I go out to the garage.
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Old 04-16-19, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I have off Friday. Just to Belleplain State Forest in Woodbine, NJ, which is roughly inland from Sea Isle City. Tow miles from my house PATCo then 54 miles from Lindenwold to the forest, with a Wawa strategically located at mile 27. Saturday I will take a day ride to either the Cape May County Zoo or over to the Delaware Bay at East Point. Sunday I will reverse course and ride back to Lindenwold. Normally I would ride into Ocean City, grab breakfast and then head to A.C. to catch the train home, but the A.C. line has been out of service since the fall to install Positive Train Control. It was supposed to be back running already, but delays have pushed re-opening until just before Memorial Day.

I was considering French Creek, but as of this moment there are only two sites left in the entire place. I have camped there when it's full. Bit too much of a circus atmosphere for me.
Cool. I love riding through French Creek. There is a long climb just North of it called Shed Rd which is one of my favorite climbs in Chester County. It's not steep (maybe only 4-5%) but goes on for over 2 miles.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
It's an aluminum 105 model, 2016, I think. I'll take a pic of the BB when I go out to the garage.
I will just about bet the farm on the English. When I was new into fixing my bikes, I asked a bike guy which bikes have Italian BB, and his answer was..... Italian bikes.
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Of course, that's not discounting what rjones said, btw. If it's threaded, no matter the adapter, I'd bet it's English.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
The wheels have a stiff, but supple, ride and I had no difficulty negotiating the varying pavement conditions on a four mile commute through the suburbs, on streets broad and narrow. The bearings rolled in a way which can only be described as "silky smooth." They climbed (clumb) like a horny spider, sprinted like a cheetah for Cheetos, and I love the way they "spin up."

Actually, the effect of losing a pound off one's wheels (and a grand from one's wallet) is noticeable, but subtle. In summary, I can say they're Good Enough for Me and I need all the help I can get.
I swapped a wheel set that reduced the weight by 2 lbs. once. The difference was amazing. As you said, anything requiring extra effort, made the difference obvious.
Also did a 1 lb. reduction swap too. That was obvious to me too. Not everyone can feel the change. Didn't see any cheetahs or spiders.
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Originally Posted by rjones28
Which Haanjo is it? Might have the Praxis M30 BB adaptor which has external bearings but installs on PF BBs.
Originally Posted by LAJ
Of course, that's not discounting what rjones said, btw. If it's threaded, no matter the adapter, I'd bet it's English.
I just poked around online and found another guy that had swapped out the cranks on his 2016 Haanjo Comp - yeah, he just swapped out the BB for a Shimano and he was good to go. I'll do an LBS inventory search and pick one up either today or tomorrow.... and I might also need a new chain - I think that the current crankset has a 46T whereas the P2M and both of my spares (I realized that I have a 5700 and a 5800 sitting around) are 50t.
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PSA: PBK has GP4KsII for $67/pair and GP5K for $94/pair.
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Originally Posted by datlas
Cool. I love riding through French Creek. There is a long climb just North of it called Shed Rd which is one of my favorite climbs in Chester County. It's not steep (maybe only 4-5%) but goes on for over 2 miles.
Been up and down Shed and Red Corner many times. They used to be on the original MS 150 PA Dutch, when French Creek was the lunch stop back in the early 90s. I go up PA 345 from Hopewell to Park Rd. then take that into the park. There is then a nasty climb up to the campground entrance. It's only about .35 miles to the check in booth, but it goes up 132'. After .1 miles you are facing grades between 6% and 8.5%, with much of that being at the higher end. If there is no traffic I often "deliver the mail." Once you get beyond the booth it keeps going up another .3 miles, but it's not as steep.
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Old 04-16-19, 08:10 AM
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Decisions decisions. Zipp firecrest 303’s or save some money and get the 302’s?
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Originally Posted by datlas
PSA: PBK has GP4KsII for $67/pair and GP5K for $94/pair.
I was about to get excited but I see that the 5Ks are not the tubeless variety. Sad.
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Old 04-16-19, 08:25 AM
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Decisions decisions. Zipp firecrest 303’s or save some money and get the 302’s?
"Save" money buying 302s.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
Decisions decisions. Zipp firecrest 303’s or save some money and get the 302’s?
Or for the same money, get them both.

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Man, that's a nice price on those wheels.
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"Save" money buying 302s.
Good point, I ordered the 303's.
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I was about to get excited but I see that the 5Ks are not the tubeless variety. Sad.
I didn't realize there was a non-tubeless version. Tricky.
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I was about to get excited but I see that the 5Ks are not the tubeless variety. Sad.
not quite as cheap, but close.

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​​​​​​ No 28s. I'd order some 28s at that price.

Also, just found out about WTB Exposure in 30mm. Slicks with tan sidewalls - oh yeahI! I'll have to dig up some reviews, but they look interesting.
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I didn't realize there was a non-tubeless version. Tricky.
Yeah, the 5000 TL is the tubeless. No TL, no tubeless.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
​​​​​​ No 28s. I'd order some 28s at that price.

Also, just found out about WTB Exposure in 30mm. Slicks with tan sidewalls - oh yeahI! I'll have to dig up some reviews, but they look interesting.
I wish they'd make the Venture in 30mm. 'til then I'll just keep rollin' Kenda Kwick on the Lemond. Of course fitting any other 30mm tire could be tough. If they're just a little bit bigger than Kenda Kwick then they'd rub on the rear brake caliper.

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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I wish they'd make the Venture in 30mm. 'til then I'll just keep rollin' Kenda Kwick on the Lemond. Of course fitting any other 30mm tire could be tough. If they're just a little bit bigger than Kenda Kwick then they'd rub on the rear brake caliper.

Do you have experience with WTB in general? If so, how are they?
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You guys and your big tires. Both of my road bikes are limited to 23's.
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I'm reverting to 23s as well. All the way back from the 25s I've been running for the past 25 years.

In other news, I was looking in on the new power meter thread a few minutes ago. And realized that to actually get any use out of a power meter, one has to have the readout gizmo mounted on the handlebar. Another shot against a power meter for me. I like to ride with a clean cockpit.
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Originally Posted by LowCel
You guys and your big tires. Both of my road bikes are limited to 23's.
I run 23F 25R. Works for me.

But that said, ideal width really depends on the bike and the rider and the conditions. We can all get along.

Maybe.
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