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Old 09-30-16, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Leadrunner
Ok, last incident, I am just finishing a climb and the two guys going the other way are coming off a flat and starting down the hill. No one is pushing hard, except for the old guy (me), so, yeah, unlike all you perfect people, I was offended.
Did you make eye contact? Or did you just assume they saw you waving?

Do you wave at other motorists when driving and expect them to wave back?
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Originally Posted by shoota
You guys never fail to deliver lol
If it's a thread about waving, you can guarantee that we will all flock to it like moths to a flame and it'll eventually get locked for whatever reason. ****.
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Boy, I really enjoyed this little discussion.
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Tough room.
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Not a big wave, but I did speak as well. Might be difficult for them to cycle while being both blind and deaf.
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Originally Posted by Leadrunner
Not a big wave, but I did speak as well. Might be difficult for them to cycle while being both blind and deaf.
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Originally Posted by punkncat
You may not be considered cool or hip enough to garner a wave. Perhaps you could adjust your cycling garmets to be more like the crowd you want to get waves from? I see nothing at all wrong with a 70 YO dude going out and getting some skinny jeans, a set of converse, black t shirt and flannel, and one of those funny flip bill hats to ride in....
Now that is the type of response I was looking for. Accurate, concise, and compelling. Thank you, sir.
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Originally Posted by cthenn
Love how you start a thread complaining about how no one will wave at you then you immediately make snarky comments about the appearance of other riders. The irony is lost on you, no doubt.
OK, Mr. Senior Poster, I didn't say no one. I pointed out a particular segment. Just seemed to me that there are some that go out of their way to be noticeable, but fail to return the acknowledgement.
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Originally Posted by Leadrunner
I'm a senior, 70, and have only been cycling for about three years. I ride three days during the week about 12 to 15 miles a day. Then, on Saturday, I typically do something a little longer. Also, I normally ride alone. I am normally a pretty friendly guy, but there have been many occasions where I have crossed paths with others that simply won't acknowledge you when you say Good Morning or something of that nature. It doesn't bother me much when it might be a big group in a pace line because they are typically about business. The ones that bother me are the groups of two or three wearing their little matching outfits, on their expensive carbon bikes, that can't be bothered to respond to some old codger just trying to stay alive and stay fit. Can you guys explain their rudeness to me?
I can try.
The WORLD does not revolve around anyone in particular; any codgers, like you or I.
If you choose to 'greet' on your ride, expect nothing. It is your outreach and really forms no requirement on anyone else's part to respond.
If they choose to respond, that's their choice.
What you're bugged about is your feeling/perception that 'THEY' look down on you; because they ride in fancy kit on fancy bikes. Thatz your misperception, not their rudeness.
Ride your ride, do your thing; let others ride their ride and do their thing.
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
I usually wave or say "hello" when I pass a cyclist or pedestrian.

If coming from the rear, I consider a greeting a way to help them become aware of my presence.

I have had a couple of people in cars yell a greeting out of the window, then speed off, and I've wondered if perhaps they were pedestrians that I passed at 20 MPH with a greeting without allowing time for them to respond. Is that equally rude?

I don't worry when people don't respond. There are much more important things in the world to worry about.
I have found that normally when people speak loudly from motorized vehicles, it isn't a greeting.
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Originally Posted by Leadrunner
I have found that normally when people speak loudly from motorized vehicles, it isn't a greeting.
You've never been to a job site then with construction vehicles.
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You've never been to a job site then with construction vehicles.
I've been of more than a couple of job sites over the years and know what you mean, but was referring to people yelling at me on my bike. Was passed one day while in the middle of a climb by a pickup with some young guys in it and cigarette smoke just boiling out the windows, and they yelled at me to get the **** off the road old man. I was so proud of their parents.

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Originally Posted by rpenmanparker
OP, give it up. Cyclists are about cycling, not communicating with strangers. Within the cycling activity that is considered proper behavior. If you want to exchange smiles and waves, try another pursuit.
Such a meanie.

Originally Posted by PepeM
how do you determine, on the few seconds you have to look, that a bike is made of crabon and not some other less assplossive material like aluminum or even steel? I sure as hell can't tell with just a glimpse but if there are some telltale signs then I would like to know so that I can make my aluminum bike appear crabon.
That pooping dog top tube look is a dead giveaway.

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I've been on Bike Forums too long to waive to anyone.
The most you'll get out of me is a head nod.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
It's really unfriendly of OP to abandon this thread without responding to each of our responses. We went out of our way to provide thoughtful insight on the wave/not wave dilemma, and he just ignores us.
He's a wise man.
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Today I was in the airport in Chicago, and although I waved and said hello to everyone I saw, no one responded, except for some woman who threatened to call the cops.
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Ah, another waving thread. I recall posting one last year when I was a newbie.

Here is my take on this subject, when I am involved in a serious ride, segment or climb.... I probably didn't even look at you. If I am simply out for some miles, I wave at everyone and could care less if they wave back. So, sometimes I am the offender and other times, the offended.

In the end, all that matters is that I got my ride in.
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Originally Posted by PepeM
Lol Fred.
You wouldn't say that to my face, I bet.
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Originally Posted by Leadrunner
Not a big wave, but I did speak as well. Might be difficult for them to cycle while being both blind and deaf.
huh...

wut...

Did someone say something?
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The main problem is millennials are all d!cks. There, I said it.
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This is why I like mtb riding, everyone waves. If you are found trail side and not moving, people ask if you are okay.
If you have a flat, or other mechanical, they stop and help. That is better than a wave any day!
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Originally Posted by PepeM
Something I've wondered:

When people mention 'those riders in their fancy crabon bikes,' how do you determine, on the few seconds you have to look, that a bike is made of crabon and not some other less assplossive material like aluminum or even steel? I sure as hell can't tell with just a glimpse but if there are some telltale signs then I would like to know so that I can make my aluminum bike appear crabon.
I know - don't think it takes anywhere near a second. But I don't complain at all about it. Telltale signs other than brand - Shiny paint - likely not carbon. Look at dropouts. Cheaper carbon or all carbon. Tube diameter. Welds at joints? If carbon the weave and where the weave is will give you some idea of quality. A bidirectional weave on the DT - Chinese carbon bike. Most good bikes have carbon layup patterns you can recognize quickly. Modern geometry the tub sizes are different. Old geometry - look at the fork rake and size.

I don't know the average income on this forum. But I have heard what it is for cyclists. Mostly what folks ride is a choice (I said mostly). There was a very stupid time in my life 50% of what I earned went to bikes. I bought my TdF 753 the year I made about $10K. But bikes were my thing and I chose to spend money there. Anyone with the luxury to be out riding should not be complaining about others bikes. Now/later - I like to spend it on the kids's bike/s. I then (for me) and now (for my kid) am giddy with excitement over new parts and can't wait to get them tried and tested. Even if nobody is watching. My desk is full of parts - there for nothing but me to look at.
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Originally Posted by up on two
This is why I like mtb riding, everyone waves.
I thought it is a pass up, but you can call it whatever you like.
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Originally Posted by Leadrunner
Now that is the type of response I was looking for. Accurate, concise, and compelling. Thank you, sir.

No problem, sir. Just trying to be helpful.
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Originally Posted by Dan333SP
It's really unfriendly of OP to abandon this thread without responding to each of our responses. We went out of our way to provide thoughtful insight on the wave/not wave dilemma, and he just ignores us.

I would put forward for your consideration, this since OP didn't know about "the wave" post and frequency, that he could possibly have a life and be doing other things than the rest of us trolls.
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I think it's the killer bud that is out there. Just about every cyclist I know tokes up before a ride. So the buzz, combined with effort of riding, equals zoned out riders. So that's why you don't get a response when you wave. Most guys are just too stoned.

And if it's a morning ride, man, not even awake, blaze up, start riding, gotta concentrate on not hitting the guys wheel ahead of me. I can't be waving or looking at someone across the road.
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