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12-28-11, 10:15 AM
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washers or nipples. Been looking for those for yonks (as my South African friends would say).
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12-29-11, 12:28 PM
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I gave in and went with tubular for the wheels on my 1940 Paramount; clinchers just wouldn't have been right on this frame. I built the wheels myself using NOS Mavic rims, Campy Record high flange pista hubs, and DT Swiss double-butted Competition stainless spokes laced 3-cross. Tires are Vittoria Pista CS 622-22.
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12-29-11, 04:24 PM
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Back in the day tubulars were made of natural fibers so they had the tendency to expand more than they do now. I got the bad custom sine back in the day, that's why i was asking. I noticed the stuff last longer this way.
03-04-12, 05:35 PM
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Does anyone use the TUFO sealant? I have not even looked at the stuff since it was Genie Juice back in.... well some time ago.
I got a bottle from Yellow Jersey and while I expected a bit of trouble putting it in a tubular without a removable valve, I found I could hardly get the stuff out of the bottle at all. I trimmed the neck/nipple/spout whatever you call it but nothing came out. I stuck a spoke in to make sure it was clear and the neck came off when I pulled the spoke out. Along with it came this nasty looking brown spongy stuff that looked like something from the medical channel. There was some liquid in the bottle but I just could not get it to come out. did I get bad bottle or is this normal?
I got a bottle from Yellow Jersey and while I expected a bit of trouble putting it in a tubular without a removable valve, I found I could hardly get the stuff out of the bottle at all. I trimmed the neck/nipple/spout whatever you call it but nothing came out. I stuck a spoke in to make sure it was clear and the neck came off when I pulled the spoke out. Along with it came this nasty looking brown spongy stuff that looked like something from the medical channel. There was some liquid in the bottle but I just could not get it to come out. did I get bad bottle or is this normal?
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03-04-12, 06:00 PM
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Beautiful, Scooper!
03-04-12, 06:01 PM
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Does anyone use the TUFO sealant? I have not even looked at the stuff since it was Genie Juice back in.... well some time ago.
I got a bottle from Yellow Jersey and while I expected a bit of trouble putting it in a tubular without a removable valve, I found I could hardly get the stuff out of the bottle at all. I trimmed the neck/nipple/spout whatever you call it but nothing came out. I stuck a spoke in to make sure it was clear and the neck came off when I pulled the spoke out. Along with it came this nasty looking brown spongy stuff that looked like something from the medical channel. There was some liquid in the bottle but I just could not get it to come out. did I get bad bottle or is this normal?
I got a bottle from Yellow Jersey and while I expected a bit of trouble putting it in a tubular without a removable valve, I found I could hardly get the stuff out of the bottle at all. I trimmed the neck/nipple/spout whatever you call it but nothing came out. I stuck a spoke in to make sure it was clear and the neck came off when I pulled the spoke out. Along with it came this nasty looking brown spongy stuff that looked like something from the medical channel. There was some liquid in the bottle but I just could not get it to come out. did I get bad bottle or is this normal?
03-04-12, 06:25 PM
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03-04-12, 10:31 PM
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I still have mine - it came out the year I graduated from high school. Mike Oldfield = awesome!
Oh . . . are we talking about TIRES? I run 300 gram Servizio Corse tubulars on my Ciocc. These are very durable training tires that are perfect for everyday riding.
Oh . . . are we talking about TIRES? I run 300 gram Servizio Corse tubulars on my Ciocc. These are very durable training tires that are perfect for everyday riding.
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03-05-12, 07:25 AM
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I used TUFO sealant but I've switched to Stan's NoTubes sealant. Same results as far as I can tell, dramatically less expensive.
I used TUFO sealant but I've switched to Stan's NoTubes sealant. Same results as far as I can tell, dramatically less expensive.
03-17-12, 11:08 AM
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Any advice if I need to add another layer of glue to the spare before I go out for another ride?
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I gave in and went with tubular for the wheels on my 1940 Paramount; clinchers just wouldn't have been right on this frame. I built the wheels myself using NOS Mavic rims, Campy Record high flange pista hubs, and DT Swiss double-butted Competition stainless spokes laced 3-cross. Tires are Vittoria Pista CS 622-22.
03-22-12, 06:06 PM
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I finally got my first set of tubular tires in the mail today, Vittoria Rally competition tires, i managed to get one on an extra rim i have so how long should i keep the tire inflated for, and how long should i keep the tire on the stretching rim until i have to do the other.
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03-22-12, 06:29 PM
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A day or even just overnight just be enough to pre-stretch the tires. Why not go ahead an put the 2nd tire on one of the rims you plan to use so you can glue them both at the same time? Btw, you only got 2 tires? What if you get a flat?
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03-22-12, 07:14 PM
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03-24-12, 12:58 PM
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If you're just learning tubulars, you may find that after installing a few tires you can just go ahead and install new tires without pre-stretching.
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With tubulars a patch kit is worth about nothing while on the road, but a spare tire and a decent pump or CO2 will get you home. You could walk instead, but walking 31 miles home after you flat at the midpoint of a metric could ruin your day, especially in cleated cycling shoes modern or vintage.
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03-24-12, 01:53 PM
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With tubulars a patch kit is worth about nothing while on the road, but a spare tire and a decent pump or CO2 will get you home. You could walk instead, but walking 31 miles home after you flat at the midpoint of a metric could ruin your day, especially in cleated cycling shoes modern or vintage.
(I did once after breaking my chain, about 5-miles from home.)
03-24-12, 06:55 PM
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Especially barefoot!
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03-24-12, 07:57 PM
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I bought several Vittoria Rally tubulars last year. They are kinda lumpy and twisted. I tried and tried to straighten them when i glued them on, but the tires themselves just aren't round.
Anyone tried the Milano tires by Schwalbe?
Anyone tried the Milano tires by Schwalbe?
03-24-12, 08:36 PM
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I've had good and bad 23 mm Rallys, as have others here. YMMV. I haven't tried the Milanos. I do like Gommitalia Champion though I've only used a pair. I also think the Yellow Jersey Servizio Corse is a real good low-cost tire. If you want to go above the $35 price point (ballpark for the Rallye), look at the Gommitalia Espresso. I think these are about as nice as some of the better cotton hand-made Vittorias of days long past.
I haven't seen any significant stretching issues with any of these tires, but I have seen occasional lumps or snakiness with Rallyes (and especially with Continental Giros). One user here sent me a handful of dead Rallyes that seem to have self-destructed without having ever been fully installed - "asploded" as some might say. I'm astounded that a company that owns the Vittoria name put it on such dreck.
I haven't seen any significant stretching issues with any of these tires, but I have seen occasional lumps or snakiness with Rallyes (and especially with Continental Giros). One user here sent me a handful of dead Rallyes that seem to have self-destructed without having ever been fully installed - "asploded" as some might say. I'm astounded that a company that owns the Vittoria name put it on such dreck.
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