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Old 07-31-11, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by asgelle
That's nothing. I saved $15,000 on the last car I bought. I just bought a Honda Fit instead of an Odyssey. I guess the point is that there's always a cheaper alternative that someone else will tell you meets all of your functional needs.
Funny. Nice car that FIT - wrong forum though.
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You should start a poll and find out who is actually going to go through this process before their next bike purchase. It's gonna be awesome!
I'll go first!
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NO, I will not!
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Originally Posted by Again
However, the overall logic still applies.
No, it doesn't as it's false logic - buying the lighter bike doesn't preclude the same personal weight loss.
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Originally Posted by Creatre
What happens when you are less than 140lbs like me? Guess I need a 50lb bike to make it fair.

You are paying for more than the weight of the bike. Components are better, frame material is stiffer/lighter, and everything will be a bit nicer.

If you want to just straight up get a cheap bike that is decently light, get it used, go to bikesdirect.com or neuvationcycling.com and then you won't have to lose as much weight and you saved money.
Obviously, some of us are limited to certain choices. If you are at the lower weight limits of your human frame my suggested option may not be advisable. Although two pounds for $1000 may still be possible?
I did all your suggested moves -
lost weight,
bought a vintage bike,
am currently waiting for delivery of a Motobecane from BD.
All worthwhile stuff!
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Originally Posted by jdon
Age old argument at bike shops and it has some validity. It doesn't change the fact that a light bike just feels better regardless of rider weight.
Agreed. We need to indulge ourselves occasionally. As long as we can afford to, anyway.
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If this system worked, you could lose 10 pounds and pedal a 26 pound bike around, then if you drop another 50 pounds you could ride a 75 pound bike around. So if I loose 100 pounds, I will weigh 94 pounds and should be able to attach some pedals to my Harley, sell my road bikes, and pocket 7 or 8k..I'm dieting as of now!
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Originally Posted by Again
Of course, if money grows on trees for you!
If you're so poor, maybe you shouldn't be looking at $2000 bikes.
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Hey, here is a great idea.

You will save a few hundred on not buying the lighter bike.

Ride Naked!

That will drop a pound or so plus save a couple of hundred dollars on jerseys and shorts!
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Originally Posted by MKIV987
But if you buy the expensive bike and can't afford to buy groceries for a few weeks afterwards, you'll probably lose more than 4 lbs anyway.
Now, all one has to do is reverse the time line on this, and get the cheaper bike!
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Then there is those of us who can't lose any more weight and be healthy. I've been running for 10 years 60+ miles a week and got into biking last year and I literally cannot drop any weight, even if I tried (and I have). It also has to be good weight. Water weight is a BAD weight loss technique.
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Originally Posted by Inertianinja
Clearly the OP is smarter than everyone who has ever bought a bike ever.
A bit of sarcasm?
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Don't you love it when "enlightenment" hits someone?
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Originally Posted by datlas
Lookit, I agree that spending 1000 bucks just to shave a pound or two off your bike may be silly.
May not qualify as being silly, as long as money is no object for you.[/QUOTE]

However, the "higher end" components, besides being lighter, can often provide better performance.
Often, though not always. And, the money saved on overall weight could be invested in any components you like!

Same goes for better components, drivetrain, etc.
So I respectfully disagree with your premise.
You may agree more than you think.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
There's nothing respectful about my disagreement with it. It's completely false - if you can lose two pounds of gut for the heavier bike, you can lose two pounds of gut for the lighter bike.
And where is the logic in that, besides being good for you anyway?
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
You can save even more by not buying a bike and find an alternative means of exercise.
??? Not a preferred choice for our members in here!
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Originally Posted by EnellCH
I'd say get the lightest / highest quality bike you can afford AND lose as much weight as possible..that way you are likely to end up riding it even more.
By all means, in a perfect world. The key words in your comment are "you can afford" and "as much as possible".
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Originally Posted by tagaproject6
You should start a poll and find out who is actually going to go through this process before their next bike purchase. It's gonna be awesome!
I'll go first!
There probably would be very few. Discipline is not very popular with the majority of people - that's what makes it special. Ask Lance!
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Originally Posted by musicmaster
Then there is those of us who can't lose any more weight and be healthy. I've been running for 10 years 60+ miles a week and got into biking last year and I literally cannot drop any weight, even if I tried (and I have). It also has to be good weight. Water weight is a BAD weight loss technique.
Then you may possibly be at your perfect weight? Have you tried low-carb diets, like the South Beach Diet?
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Originally Posted by WHOOOSSHHH...
If this system worked, you could lose 10 pounds and pedal a 26 pound bike around, then if you drop another 50 pounds you could ride a 75 pound bike around. So if I loose 100 pounds, I will weigh 94 pounds and should be able to attach some pedals to my Harley, sell my road bikes, and pocket 7 or 8k..I'm dieting as of now!
Good luck, we are pulling for you!!!
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Originally Posted by Again
Funny. Nice car that FIT - wrong forum though.
It's called an analogy. Think about it.

And while you're telling us how to live our lives, should I have chicken, potatoes, and a salad for dinner or go with the vegetarian pasta also with a salad? I don't think I can go shopping until I hear back from you.
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Originally Posted by asgelle
It's called an analogy. Think about it.
Ah, I have heard about that before!

And while you're telling us how to live our lives,...should I have chicken, potatoes, and a salad for dinner or go with the vegetarian pasta also with a salad? I don't think I can go shopping until I hear back from you.
You have a slight misconception about this thread. We are sharing ideas, and nobody is trying to tell you what to do. You can take it or leave it, the idea was simply to make you think about it. Your thoughts are invited, as long as they are constructive. No sarcasm or controversy is sought here.
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Originally Posted by Again
You have a slight misconception about this thread. We are sharing ideas, and nobody is trying to tell you what to do. You can take it or leave it, the idea was simply to make you think about it. Your thoughts are invited, as long as they are constructive. No sarcasm or controversy is sought here.
The discussion is based on the idea that one person can know what is best for everyone regardless of the particulars of their situation. I believe sarcasm and ridicule is the only proper response.

The effect on weight on performance has been quantified and discussed ad nauseum. I see nothing new here. As to how important that change in performance is and what impact the associated cost has, well that depends on the individual and all the particulars of their life which we have no way of knowing and certainly can't be generalized. Hence, we're back to telling people what they should have for dinner.
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Originally Posted by Again
And where is the logic in that, besides being good for you anyway?
Are you being intentionally obtuse, or are you really this dense? I'm pointing out the fundamental flaw in your reasoning - you claim that you can be $1000 ahead of the game by buying a heavier bike and losing body weight. I'm pointing out that buying the lighter bike doesn't preclude you from losing that same weight, so the weight advantage of the more expensive bike still holds.

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No sarcasm or controversy is sought here.
Whether or not it's sought, the sarcasm is warranted.
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Let's keep it respectful, folks. You can disagree without getting personal or derisive.
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Originally Posted by Again
If you expected to find a marketing ploy in this thread I have to disappoint you, or maybe relieve you.
I am not trying to sell you or point out a special sale.
What I am trying to get across is that it is quite simple to save that much money on the purchase of a top level bike. Independent of sale specials!
For argument's sake lets say that a quality road bike that weighs 2lbs less than the next model may cost you an extra $800 to $1000.
If one 180lb rider bought a 24lb bike for $3000 the total weight of bike and rider is 204lbs.
If the same rider went on a low-carb diet for a month and dropped 2lbs in weight (which is real easy to do over 4 weeks, and will stay off!) he could buy a 26lb bike for $2000, at a $1000 saving.
These numbers may be arbitrary, but that is not the issue, and hopefully, you still get the point.
I can see how this will work for ppl who are overweight, but as a 125lb rider who needs to GAIN weight, not lose it, this is kinda useless. I can see the point though, all these Freds around where I live have 8+ grand bikes and they are like 200+ lbs.
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