What's the best protection from punctures?
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I don't know about Nevada, but I find the more flat-resistant Schwalbes are pretty good in Ohio: I can't remember when I've last had a flat, but it's been probably at least three or four years. I think they bill the marathon plus as "unflattable."
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So back on topic. I did some shopping today and I think I'm going with some Schwalbe Durano Plus tires as they are advertised to be highly puncture resistant.
And then I had a thought. The other day I picked up a thorn in my back tire, which flattened the tire (yet again). The difference, though, was being on the back, the flat posed much less risk of a fall and injury. So I was thinking, why not buy a pair of these tires and just run the Schwalbes on the front of two bikes and a standard tire on the back? Some people have mentioned these harder tires increase rolling resistance and take more effort. Well, if I only run one on the front, I get the benefit of more puncture resistance on the tire that's most likely to take me down. But I also get the benefit of only half the increased rolling resistance.
It may sound convoluted, I know, but really, what do I have to lose?
And then I had a thought. The other day I picked up a thorn in my back tire, which flattened the tire (yet again). The difference, though, was being on the back, the flat posed much less risk of a fall and injury. So I was thinking, why not buy a pair of these tires and just run the Schwalbes on the front of two bikes and a standard tire on the back? Some people have mentioned these harder tires increase rolling resistance and take more effort. Well, if I only run one on the front, I get the benefit of more puncture resistance on the tire that's most likely to take me down. But I also get the benefit of only half the increased rolling resistance.
It may sound convoluted, I know, but really, what do I have to lose?
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So back on topic. I did some shopping today and I think I'm going with some Schwalbe Durano Plus tires as they are advertised to be highly puncture resistant.
And then I had a thought. The other day I picked up a thorn in my back tire, which flattened the tire (yet again). The difference, though, was being on the back, the flat posed much less risk of a fall and injury. So I was thinking, why not buy a pair of these tires and just run the Schwalbes on the front of two bikes and a standard tire on the back? Some people have mentioned these harder tires increase rolling resistance and take more effort. Well, if I only run one on the front, I get the benefit of more puncture resistance on the tire that's most likely to take me down. But I also get the benefit of only half the increased rolling resistance.
It may sound convoluted, I know, but really, what do I have to lose?
And then I had a thought. The other day I picked up a thorn in my back tire, which flattened the tire (yet again). The difference, though, was being on the back, the flat posed much less risk of a fall and injury. So I was thinking, why not buy a pair of these tires and just run the Schwalbes on the front of two bikes and a standard tire on the back? Some people have mentioned these harder tires increase rolling resistance and take more effort. Well, if I only run one on the front, I get the benefit of more puncture resistance on the tire that's most likely to take me down. But I also get the benefit of only half the increased rolling resistance.
It may sound convoluted, I know, but really, what do I have to lose?
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This will not solve your flatting issue. Just lessen it on one tire. Besides, I can't stand mismatched wheels and tires.
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i think your idea will work. just try it. if it feels wonky after a while just match up the tires on the two bikes you experiment with. no harm in trying.
but, if you are flatting so often then you really might want ot consider the tubeless route. i am not considering it for my self, have had about 6t flats this year. some years none but this year is a banner year. maybe next hear there won't be any, who knows.
if you do nothing at least pay attention to the front tire or try what one poster suggested to ride with a purposely flat tire to get the feel for it. no need to wipe out due to ignorance.
but, if you are flatting so often then you really might want ot consider the tubeless route. i am not considering it for my self, have had about 6t flats this year. some years none but this year is a banner year. maybe next hear there won't be any, who knows.
if you do nothing at least pay attention to the front tire or try what one poster suggested to ride with a purposely flat tire to get the feel for it. no need to wipe out due to ignorance.
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This will sound harsh, but I think you need to work on situational awareness and bike handling skills, more than obtaining a more flat resistant tire. A sudden flat can certainly lead to a crash, even for the best bike handler, but multiple crashes from slowly deflating tires in a short period suggests other problems.
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i think your idea will work. just try it. if it feels wonky after a while just match up the tires on the two bikes you experiment with. no harm in trying.
but, if you are flatting so often then you really might want ot consider the tubeless route. i am not considering it for my self, have had about 6t flats this year. some years none but this year is a banner year. maybe next hear there won't be any, who knows.
if you do nothing at least pay attention to the front tire or try what one poster suggested to ride with a purposely flat tire to get the feel for it. no need to wipe out due to ignorance.
but, if you are flatting so often then you really might want ot consider the tubeless route. i am not considering it for my self, have had about 6t flats this year. some years none but this year is a banner year. maybe next hear there won't be any, who knows.
if you do nothing at least pay attention to the front tire or try what one poster suggested to ride with a purposely flat tire to get the feel for it. no need to wipe out due to ignorance.
This will sound harsh, but I think you need to work on situational awareness and bike handling skills, more than obtaining a more flat resistant tire. A sudden flat can certainly lead to a crash, even for the best bike handler, but multiple crashes from slowly deflating tires in a short period suggests other problems.
Going back to the event that prompted this thread, I was on an uncommonly smooth section of road (for here) and the only reason I realized my rear tire was flat was because it slowed me down so much. I had been maintaining a 17-18mph pace and all of a sudden I'm working just to keep it over 14. I knew something wasn't right, but I didn't feel the tire.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
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That's what I was thinking. I realize I'll still be at risk of flat, particularly in the back. But I don't feel rear flats are quite as risky of a tumble as the front. I may go tubeless at some point but I will probably end up buying a wheel set that is tubeless ready instead of trying to convert the older wheels I'm currently running.
No offense taken. I can be honest and say I've really had a hard time identifying the difference between a tire that's fully inflated and one that's flat. To me, they feel far too similar. Fully inflated and I hit a rock, it feels like the whole wheel jumps (happened to me earlier today). When a tire is flat, I feel every rock on the road.
Going back to the event that prompted this thread, I was on an uncommonly smooth section of road (for here) and the only reason I realized my rear tire was flat was because it slowed me down so much. I had been maintaining a 17-18mph pace and all of a sudden I'm working just to keep it over 14. I knew something wasn't right, but I didn't feel the tire.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
No offense taken. I can be honest and say I've really had a hard time identifying the difference between a tire that's fully inflated and one that's flat. To me, they feel far too similar. Fully inflated and I hit a rock, it feels like the whole wheel jumps (happened to me earlier today). When a tire is flat, I feel every rock on the road.
Going back to the event that prompted this thread, I was on an uncommonly smooth section of road (for here) and the only reason I realized my rear tire was flat was because it slowed me down so much. I had been maintaining a 17-18mph pace and all of a sudden I'm working just to keep it over 14. I knew something wasn't right, but I didn't feel the tire.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
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I can be honest and say I've really had a hard time identifying the difference between a tire that's fully inflated and one that's flat. To me, they feel far too similar. Fully inflated and I hit a rock, it feels like the whole wheel jumps (happened to me earlier today). When a tire is flat, I feel every rock on the road.
Going back to the event that prompted this thread, I was on an uncommonly smooth section of road (for here) and the only reason I realized my rear tire was flat was because it slowed me down so much. I had been maintaining a 17-18mph pace and all of a sudden I'm working just to keep it over 14. I knew something wasn't right, but I didn't feel the tire.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
Going back to the event that prompted this thread, I was on an uncommonly smooth section of road (for here) and the only reason I realized my rear tire was flat was because it slowed me down so much. I had been maintaining a 17-18mph pace and all of a sudden I'm working just to keep it over 14. I knew something wasn't right, but I didn't feel the tire.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
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... I was on an uncommonly smooth section of road (for here) and the only reason I realized my rear tire was flat was because it slowed me down so much. I had been maintaining a 17-18mph pace and all of a sudden I'm working just to keep it over 14. I knew something wasn't right, but I didn't feel the tire.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
Maybe my arse is as tone deaf as my hearing.
But seriously, it should be possible to take an occasional glance at the tires? Especially the front, but also the back.
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Well, if you really want to know when a tire is losing pressure, there is tech that will give you the answer. At a price.
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I've had so many tumbles due to low/flat tires, that I'm constantly peeking at them. I've only had a couple of tumbles that weren't directly tire related.
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If I was falling off my bike as many times as it sounds like you have then I would absolutely invest in a proper tubeless setup. I’ve been running road tubeless since 2019 and have not had a single flat since. On tubed tyres I would typically get up to a dozen flats per year, although I don’t recall any of them causing a crash!
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I may be overstating things a bit. I've had a few tumbles, but it's not like a weekly thing. I had two so far this year directly due to flats. And maybe two or three total in the five years prior. It's just that flats have caused the majority of crashes since I seriously got back into riding.
As for tubeless. I'm not saying no just yet, but a more economical option might be the tire pressure monitor linked above.
As for tubeless. I'm not saying no just yet, but a more economical option might be the tire pressure monitor linked above.
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I may be overstating things a bit. I've had a few tumbles, but it's not like a weekly thing. I had two so far this year directly due to flats. And maybe two or three total in the five years prior. It's just that flats have caused the majority of crashes since I seriously got back into riding.
As for tubeless. I'm not saying no just yet, but a more economical option might be the tire pressure monitor linked above.
As for tubeless. I'm not saying no just yet, but a more economical option might be the tire pressure monitor linked above.
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Yes, I am admitting that I am part of the problem.
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I have a small 120v electric compressor. I generally run that up until the gauge reads 90-100 pounds and that's what I use to inflate the tires. I have to admit, though, I'm not really good about doing this every single time. Like this week, I checked the pressure before my ride on Wednesday, but before I rode today, I just gave the tires a squeeze to see if they felt soft.
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Maybe you do, maybe you don't, but I would assume that even having a chance to finish a triathlon before the organizers pack it up and go home (i.e., what you do) would require more planning than just going for a ride after finishing work ahead of time (i.e.. what I do)?
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I have a small 120v electric compressor. I generally run that up until the gauge reads 90-100 pounds and that's what I use to inflate the tires. I have to admit, though, I'm not really good about doing this every single time. Like this week, I checked the pressure before my ride on Wednesday, but before I rode today, I just gave the tires a squeeze to see if they felt soft.
Yes, I am admitting that I am part of the problem.
Yes, I am admitting that I am part of the problem.
At 50 psi, air leaks out a lot slower with a puncture than it does at 100 psi and there is more volume of air in the tyre. So low pressure, high volume tyres take longer to go flat with a puncture. So you are more likely to notice something is wrong before you crash.
The bad news is that you might need a whole new bike to get enough frame clearance. But it might be worth it in the long run because crashing can potentially get much more expensive than a new bike.
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Since you are running 90-100 psi I presume you are on narrow tyres ie 23-25 mm. Moving to wider tyres 30-32 mm and going tubeless would allow you to run 50-60 psi and you wouldn’t lose any speed. But more importantly in your situation, minor punctures will self seal without much loss in pressure. You won’t even know you had a puncture.
Unless you're riding really rough roads, you will be giving up watts with fat tires at low pressure.
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If you can take the time to train for triathalon, you can take the time to inflate both tires before every ride with a floor pump, which will be much faster (i.e., < 1 min./tire) than the compressor, and cheaper than Quarg Tire Whiz. The additional benefit is that, once you dial in an optimal tire pressure for each tire, you will get used to it, and you can more readily tell if it is low as soon as you ride off.
have a number of floor pumps including two Silca pumps and now rarely use them - only use them to inflate a tube when installing a tire
instead now use a battery powered portable inflator
in addition to bikes - use it on our cars, garden tractors, wheelbarrows etc
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