What does "MUP" mean?
08-27-08, 09:17 AM
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Around where I live, the limestone MUP is diverted to the sidewalk in a few locations. Almost always, the sidewalk that is also MUP is wider than a normal sidewalk. I would say that the MUP is 6 to 8 feet wide? (edit: with another 3 feet of grass shoulder on each side of limestone MUP) but I haven't measured it. 6 to 8 feet for the sidewalks that do MUP duty.
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08-28-08, 04:11 PM
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Here the MUP is about twice as wide as a sidewalk and is continuously paved with blacktop rather than portions of concrete.
09-01-08, 02:07 PM
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Thank you all for helping to clarify that for me.
@2 thru to @4 were direct and to the point ... but then the rest of you have elevated this thread. I also wondered what "Fred" is - perhaps this needs its own thread (or forum)?
Thanks all.
@2 thru to @4 were direct and to the point ... but then the rest of you have elevated this thread. I also wondered what "Fred" is - perhaps this needs its own thread (or forum)?
Thanks all.
09-01-08, 10:57 PM
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Mis-Use of Pavement. Just what I need, a rules-free zone with a ridiculously-low speed limit, no centerline, and oblivious people walking three abreast with dogs on 20-foot retract-O-leashes. 
*fires up the light systems & hits the arterials*
*fires up the light systems & hits the arterials*
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09-02-08, 01:50 PM
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"Oh, that's what the bell was for!"
09-26-15, 02:21 PM
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Call 'em greenways here.
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09-26-15, 07:06 PM
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The path of the righteous commuter is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish cager and the tyranny of evil roadies. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the newbie cyclist through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother's keeper and the builder of ridiculously bright DIY halogen bicycle lights. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brother commuter. And you will know I am the Fred when I lay my vengeance upon thee
09-26-15, 10:46 PM
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In Toronto any path within a park is assumed to be a MUP. You can bike on it as long as you are not using a motor, and if you limit your speed to 20 kph and yield to pedestrians.
09-26-15, 11:58 PM
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09-27-15, 12:04 PM
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In many places it isn't legal to ride a bike on a sidewalk. Sidewalks are for pedestrians. MUPs are for pedestrians, bicycles, and some other uses (skateboards and other non-motorized vehicles). However, many parts of many MUPs are nothing but glorified sidewalks and aren't good for riding on over 8-12 MPH. They cross too many driveways, provide worse traction than pavement (if they are simply converted sidewalks), and you constantly have to dodge pedestrians that don't understand things like staying to the right, that bike bells mean approaching danger, or that yelling on your left means they need to get out of the way.
09-27-15, 12:27 PM
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Just like I mentioned in the other similar thread, y'all MUP haters need to venture out to California (bring your own water) because our take on the MUP is a bit different. The SART, SGRT, and LART are all 8+ feet wide, marked with a centerline, paved, 30+ miles long, and regularly filled with people going +20mph. I mean, the San Gabriel River Trail @ the Santa Fe Dam looks pretty terrible, right?
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09-27-15, 08:08 PM
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It's on top of a dam right there. I would certainly hope it's flat. Turn right from there and go five miles, you'll be on Glendora Mountain Road. All the hills you could ever desire.
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that is what we call them here in NC too.
sounds good to me too!
Just like I mentioned in the other similar thread, y'all MUP haters need to venture out to California (bring your own water) because our take on the MUP is a bit different. The SART, SGRT, and LART are all 8+ feet wide, marked with a centerline, paved, 30+ miles long, and regularly filled with people going +20mph. I mean, the San Gabriel River Trail @ the Santa Fe Dam looks pretty terrible, right?
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