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01-24-21, 09:52 PM
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01-24-21, 10:00 PM
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01-24-21, 10:01 PM
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So it is
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I sound like a fanboy, but these have been rock solid so far. Not Delta, but Keo is close. I'm not sure if these are subject to any discounts, but I know there's a 10% off if you sign up for email/first purchase.
https://www.clevertraining.com/assio...ng-power-meter
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01-24-21, 10:07 PM
#3154
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I sound like a fanboy, but these have been rock solid so far. Not Delta, but Keo is close. I'm not sure if these are subject to any discounts, but I know there's a 10% off if you sign up for email/first purchase.
https://www.clevertraining.com/assio...ng-power-meter
https://www.clevertraining.com/assio...ng-power-meter
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01-24-21, 10:14 PM
#3155
So it is
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01-25-21, 04:51 AM
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One of the gifts that my son received for Christmas was a cookbook with a teeny, tiny baking set. Real baking pans, utensils, mixing/measuring stuff... but tiny. Anyway, over the last couple weeks, he's really gotten in to baking, making things like layer cakes the diameter of a quarter and chocolate chip cookies smaller than a dime (side note: the messes he's made in the kitchen have been decidedly *not* tiny). Today, emboldened by his tiny baking, he asked to bake full-sized chocolate chip cookies with his mom. She told him that they could after little sister's nap time, etc. Well, he got impatient and took it upon himself to get out the ingredients. Then he decided to measure them out while still waiting. And then, why not mix 'em up? By the time my wife showed up, he had balls of cookie dough on the baking sheets, waiting to go in to the pre-heated oven. 
And the cookies? Pretty damn good. If this continues, I may have been a little hasty in celebrating my winter austerity.
And the cookies? Pretty damn good. If this continues, I may have been a little hasty in celebrating my winter austerity.
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01-25-21, 04:54 AM
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Ha. I just like to game... but I haven't had much time or energy for it lately. Now that I think about it, I bought a new, pretty decent GPU last year and I don't think that I've played one graphically demanding game on the system, since. I've played a couple of older games, but nothing to make use of the ponies under the hood.
01-25-21, 06:02 AM
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01-25-21, 06:14 AM
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50 and rainy here, so no Real Miles for me. So, I clamped the Bianchi into the Snap, set myself up with two bottle and some snacks, clipped in, and set out in the unreal world, without a plan other than to kill a couple hours. At first I thought I'd just do a Z1-Z2 day, after my Week Of Unreal Climbing. But then I got a burr under my saddle and scored a PR on the Volcano Circuit, then decided to try the Ramp Test in Erg Mode again. This time it worked a lot better - I avoided the death spiral, and got a result 25 watts higher than last time! Then, I was tooling around Watopia for the next 15 minutes, trying to decide whether to do a Workout, or jump to one of the other worlds, when suddenly....
Nothing. Literally nothing, because the TV and my laptop went black, the music stopped, the 'On/Off' switch on the laptop was dark. Total, instantaneous crash with no warning. No frame rate problems, no glitches. Just, black and silent.
Unplugged all the peripherals and restarted the computer, which seemed perfectly fine. Checked 'my.zwift.com' - nothing. No new data since Friday. Checked Strava - same.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess it was one of those "Zwift Crashes". Most of an hour's data, lost! The HR data for the Ramp Test, gone!
So I plugged the TV and the Ant Stick back in, restarted Zwift, restarted the music, and went to Innsbruck, figuring to ride in the town while deciding whether to do the climb again, BUT apparently I chose "UCI Short Lap" instead of Innsbruckring, and I figured, "What the hell?" SO I rode it again, having done it as Stage 2 of TdZ. Beat my time up the climb by 2 minutes. Beat my time for the whole lap by 3 1/2 minutes. Whole thing was about an hour, and left me pretty much spent.
Checked "my.zwift.com" again, and the firt hour was there, but only the minimum data - time, distance, elevation, calories. No route, no power data, no HR data. I had to enter what data there were into Strava manually. Better than nothing, I suppose.
I learned last night that Zwift runs locally, on your own computer, and that Zwift sends data on the 100 riders nearest you for your computer to render, so it seems like during the ride, all your data are on your own computer, NOT on Zwift's servers. So if you have a crash, all but the minimum data are gone. Makes me wonder if I need a better rig for Zwifting...............
Nothing. Literally nothing, because the TV and my laptop went black, the music stopped, the 'On/Off' switch on the laptop was dark. Total, instantaneous crash with no warning. No frame rate problems, no glitches. Just, black and silent.
Unplugged all the peripherals and restarted the computer, which seemed perfectly fine. Checked 'my.zwift.com' - nothing. No new data since Friday. Checked Strava - same.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGHHH!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess it was one of those "Zwift Crashes". Most of an hour's data, lost! The HR data for the Ramp Test, gone!
So I plugged the TV and the Ant Stick back in, restarted Zwift, restarted the music, and went to Innsbruck, figuring to ride in the town while deciding whether to do the climb again, BUT apparently I chose "UCI Short Lap" instead of Innsbruckring, and I figured, "What the hell?" SO I rode it again, having done it as Stage 2 of TdZ. Beat my time up the climb by 2 minutes. Beat my time for the whole lap by 3 1/2 minutes. Whole thing was about an hour, and left me pretty much spent.
Checked "my.zwift.com" again, and the firt hour was there, but only the minimum data - time, distance, elevation, calories. No route, no power data, no HR data. I had to enter what data there were into Strava manually. Better than nothing, I suppose.
I learned last night that Zwift runs locally, on your own computer, and that Zwift sends data on the 100 riders nearest you for your computer to render, so it seems like during the ride, all your data are on your own computer, NOT on Zwift's servers. So if you have a crash, all but the minimum data are gone. Makes me wonder if I need a better rig for Zwifting...............
01-25-21, 06:36 AM
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I sound like a fanboy, but these have been rock solid so far. Not Delta, but Keo is close. I'm not sure if these are subject to any discounts, but I know there's a 10% off if you sign up for email/first purchase.
https://www.clevertraining.com/assio...ng-power-meter
https://www.clevertraining.com/assio...ng-power-meter
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01-25-21, 06:39 AM
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Is having 3 double espressos within an hour of your cardiac doctor appointment a bad idea? Asking for a friend.
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01-25-21, 06:48 AM
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So it is
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01-25-21, 06:52 AM
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Thanks, I've heard good things about them. I worry a lot about Q because of my height/leg length but I'd still like to give them a try. I bet if I dig a little longer that I can find some data on how much Q is increased.
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01-25-21, 07:01 AM
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If it's over the top, try not to do this again.
01-25-21, 07:04 AM
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I used Delta-based pedals/cleats for DECADES. I finally switched over to the Keo pedals/cleats about 4 years ago. I think the difference is marginal, but mainly I got tired of looking for pedals and cleats. Those Dura-Ace 7401 pedals are the best. I may have an old pair lying around if you really want to stay with that platform.
01-25-21, 07:05 AM
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Experience tells me that he'll be OK but it did pass his mind that it may not be a smart thing to do.
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01-25-21, 07:20 AM
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I used Delta-based pedals/cleats for DECADES. I finally switched over to the Keo pedals/cleats about 4 years ago. I think the difference is marginal, but mainly I got tired of looking for pedals and cleats. Those Dura-Ace 7401 pedals are the best. I may have an old pair lying around if you really want to stay with that platform.
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01-25-21, 07:33 AM
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1) find a sensible way of getting power on your most performance-oriented bike.
2) do it
3) the rest will figure itself out, I promise you
Once you have power, you'll either want it all the time or you'll realize that it's not in your personality to obsess about it each and every ride. With the former, you'll either ride the bike with PM almost exclusively or you won't mind the effort of moving the PM (until you buy more PMs for the other bikes
). With the latter, you'll be content with taking occasional rides unshackled from expectation or agenda.
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01-25-21, 07:36 AM
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01-25-21, 07:38 AM
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01-25-21, 07:41 AM
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Fat n slow
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I need to find a power solution for the Revolt. I don’t really want Keo cleats on a bike I’m going to ride in the mud and dirt. I had a slow motion crash BITD on SPDs that got packed with dirt and I couldn’t get out of either side before I fell over and would like to avoid a repeat if I can.
for the time being I’ll swap the Vectors, it’s about 3 mins to do, but long term I’d like something more like a MTB shoe on that bike.
for the time being I’ll swap the Vectors, it’s about 3 mins to do, but long term I’d like something more like a MTB shoe on that bike.
01-25-21, 07:42 AM
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Yeah, don't even bother unless you have a specific game in mind and you know that you don't have the power to run it adequately. I spent $400+ on my GPU and it's done nothing but live a life of leisure after the initial benchmarking.
01-25-21, 07:44 AM
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I don't need that kind of immersion - too much potential for addiction, for me. Sleep would be the first thing to go.
Yeah, don't even bother unless you have a specific game in mind and you know that you don't have the power to run it adequately. I spent $400+ on my GPU and it's done nothing but live a life of leisure after the initial benchmarking.
Yeah, don't even bother unless you have a specific game in mind and you know that you don't have the power to run it adequately. I spent $400+ on my GPU and it's done nothing but live a life of leisure after the initial benchmarking.
01-25-21, 07:45 AM
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I was recently given a pair of SPD-SL pedals. I quit using Look type pedals years ago after my wife started doing a lot of tandem touring. Anyway, I've been debating whether it would be worth it to buy some road shoes or pass the pedals along to someone else. It's another pedal related question that I need to dig in to.