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Only an English speaker would say this. In European countries where English is not the dominant language, you will hear television newscasters making (usually excellent) attempts to pronounce English proper names to sound the way English speakers say them. This is often quite a stretch for native French-speakers particularly as the sounds of many letters, not just the vowels, are different. The effect is startling: a speaker is rattling on in a to-me incomprehensible stream when out of the blue jumps a perfectly pronounced McDonalds, or Wichita, or Saskatchewan.
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Only an English speaker would say this. In European countries where English is not the dominant language, you will hear television newscasters making (usually excellent) attempts to pronounce English proper names to sound the way English speakers say them. This is often quite a stretch for native French-speakers particularly as the sounds of many letters, not just the vowels, are different. The effect is startling: a speaker is rattling on in a to-me incomprehensible stream when out of the blue jumps a perfectly pronounced McDonalds, or Wichita, or Saskatchewan.
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Yeah, but wouldn't a French person pronounce the first one more like "Luke"?
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Only an English speaker would say this. In European countries where English is not the dominant language, you will hear television newscasters making (usually excellent) attempts to pronounce English proper names to sound the way English speakers say them. This is often quite a stretch for native French-speakers particularly as the sounds of many letters, not just the vowels, are different. The effect is startling: a speaker is rattling on in a to-me incomprehensible stream when out of the blue jumps a perfectly pronounced McDonalds, or Wichita, or Saskatchewan.
To the former point also, yes, I'm well aware of it. Please note: we are conversing in English here. We are all English speakers on this forum. When we speak to one another, what matters is that we communicate. We do not need to pronounce words as if we were speaking another language.
For example, Americans of a certain political bent pronounce "Iraq" something like "E Rock." Americans of another political leaning are more likely to say "eye rack." We understand either one. We would probably not understand the same word as spoken by an Iraqi (in whose language it sounds entirely different: different consonants and different vowels).
To say that we don't pronounce it the way Iraqis do is not to say we pronounce it wrong. We are speaking English, not Arabic.
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As for Ciöcc, the word doesn't mean anything according to the man himself. Here's how he pronounces it....
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Chrysler named its car the Cordoba (cor-DOH-bah) but the cities by that name in Spain and Argentina have the accent on the first syllable (COR-doh-bah) so it must have killed ol' Ricardo, a native Spanish speaker, to have to mispronounce that word. On the other hand, the company probably paid him a boatload to do so.
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And I guess it is properly "chin-ELL-ee." However there was a famous restaurant in these parts that was spelled the same and was pronounced by one and all as "sin-ELL-ee's," and that old habit dies hard.
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As for Ciöcc, the word doesn't mean anything according to the man himself. Here's how he pronounces it....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJHwPqn2jY0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJHwPqn2jY0
Bergamo, while we're at it, is pronounced BEHR-gah-moh.
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Brooks: BRO ahks
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Tomato - Tow-mah-toe...
accoutrement - ah-koo-tree-ment.
accouterment - ah-kooter-ment.
Webster's says they're both corrrect. Pronunciations are usually a local convention; it is respectful to make an attempt to get it right, to pay homage to a culture, an originator, or to tout your "worldliness." But if you research semantics, language origins, and proper usage..., of any language, you'll find dialects, contradictions and exceptions a-plenty. Say it the best you can and ignore the "down-the-nose" looks.
accoutrement - ah-koo-tree-ment.
accouterment - ah-kooter-ment.
Webster's says they're both corrrect. Pronunciations are usually a local convention; it is respectful to make an attempt to get it right, to pay homage to a culture, an originator, or to tout your "worldliness." But if you research semantics, language origins, and proper usage..., of any language, you'll find dialects, contradictions and exceptions a-plenty. Say it the best you can and ignore the "down-the-nose" looks.
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Deore? I pronounce it 'dee-or-ay', makes it sound Italian although I know it's a made up name by a Japanese company.
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Funny to hear I'm not the only one who pronounces it DU-RA-A-CHEE, initially as a joke, but now, all the time.
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So what about gugificazione? Is the second 'g' silent there too? Goo-ee-fa-cahz-ee-oh-nay? Or does the lack of a consonant after the 'g' make it a hard 'g'? Goo-gi-fa-cahz-ee-oh-nay?
And I'm still waiting to here back on the verb forms. Present perfect: Gugificazata'd?
And I'm still waiting to here back on the verb forms. Present perfect: Gugificazata'd?
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On a more serious note: Viscount = VIE-count.
Gitane = zhee-TAHN but I usually say the G like ginormous so it comes out like dji-TAHN.
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Only an English speaker would say this. In European countries where English is not the dominant language, you will hear television newscasters making (usually excellent) attempts to pronounce English proper names to sound the way English speakers say them. This is often quite a stretch for native French-speakers particularly as the sounds of many letters, not just the vowels, are different. The effect is startling: a speaker is rattling on in a to-me incomprehensible stream when out of the blue jumps a perfectly pronounced McDonalds, or Wichita, or Saskatchewan.
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To the latter point, yes, I am familiar with this phenomenon. But also with its inverse, where Germans have just as much trouble with American words as Americans have with German ones.
To the former point also, yes, I'm well aware of it. Please note: we are conversing in English here. We are all English speakers on this forum. When we speak to one another, what matters is that we communicate. We do not need to pronounce words as if we were speaking another language.
For example, Americans of a certain political bent pronounce "Iraq" something like "E Rock." Americans of another political leaning are more likely to say "eye rack." We understand either one. We would probably not understand the same word as spoken by an Iraqi (in whose language it sounds entirely different: different consonants and different vowels).
To say that we don't pronounce it the way Iraqis do is not to say we pronounce it wrong. We are speaking English, not Arabic.
To the former point also, yes, I'm well aware of it. Please note: we are conversing in English here. We are all English speakers on this forum. When we speak to one another, what matters is that we communicate. We do not need to pronounce words as if we were speaking another language.
For example, Americans of a certain political bent pronounce "Iraq" something like "E Rock." Americans of another political leaning are more likely to say "eye rack." We understand either one. We would probably not understand the same word as spoken by an Iraqi (in whose language it sounds entirely different: different consonants and different vowels).
To say that we don't pronounce it the way Iraqis do is not to say we pronounce it wrong. We are speaking English, not Arabic.
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Here in the US it is common for people to claim this or that country as our place of ancestry. People take great pride in being Irish, Lithuanian, whatever. As well they should; it's what makes them Americans. My ancestors were mostly from Germany, but I also have ancestors from other countries. When people (even on this forum!) brag about their Italian ancestry, I like to mention that I'm descended from the Pusinelli family from the town of Dresda.
Dresda, of course, is the Italian name for Dresden, in northern Germany but I'm rarely challenged on this.
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How about SRAM? sram or s-ram?
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Someone posted this in another one of these threads - https://forvo.com/search
I can't believe I've been saying Bianchi wrong this entire time...
SRAM is just SRAM.
I can't believe I've been saying Bianchi wrong this entire time...
SRAM is just SRAM.
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Of course!
Here in the US it is common for people to claim this or that country as our place of ancestry. People take great pride in being Irish, Lithuanian, whatever. As well they should; it's what makes them Americans. My ancestors were mostly from Germany, but I also have ancestors from other countries. When people (even on this forum!) brag about their Italian ancestry, I like to mention that I'm descended from the Pusinelli family from the town of Dresda.
Dresda, of course, is the Italian name for Dresden, in northern Germany but I'm rarely challenged on this.
Here in the US it is common for people to claim this or that country as our place of ancestry. People take great pride in being Irish, Lithuanian, whatever. As well they should; it's what makes them Americans. My ancestors were mostly from Germany, but I also have ancestors from other countries. When people (even on this forum!) brag about their Italian ancestry, I like to mention that I'm descended from the Pusinelli family from the town of Dresda.
Dresda, of course, is the Italian name for Dresden, in northern Germany but I'm rarely challenged on this.
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As for the disregard for pronunciation of proper names, we come by it honestly. A significant number of Americans got their current family name from those who were here before them mispronouncing and misspelling the name the family had before they immigrated.
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