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Old 01-31-21, 08:11 PM
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seems appropriate for Mo.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Mainly fear of being continuously cold for two or three weeks.
I don't need to go anywhere for that. Got five months of it here.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Mainly fear of being continuously cold for two or three weeks.
I get that, but it's a small price to pay for a once in a lifetime thing. Plus, you hang out with cyclists. We know how to fight the cold. Show up in some Pearl Izumi stuff, and really throw them a curveball.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
Someone who's in good shape.

The guy in my church did it in 17:22.
The problem is that someone that you're vaguely acquainted with did it, and that's diminished the accomplishment and effort in your eyes. It's not physically or mentally easy.
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Originally Posted by MoAlpha
Just a comment: If you are fit, as I’m sure you are, HR Z2 is going to have you in power zone Z3 a significant amount of the time, at least until your HR drifts up. Check it on the trainer.

Not much you can do about it outdoors.
Well, fit-ish.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
The problem is that someone that you're vaguely acquainted with did it, and that's diminished the accomplishment and effort in your eyes. It's not physically or mentally easy.
How do you know how well we're acquainted? Anyway, I don't at all think it's easy, I just think it's doable in a normal waking day, mostly in daylight, even. That's a lot better than riding overnight.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
How do you know how well we're acquainted? Anyway, I don't at all think it's easy, I just think it's doable in a normal waking day, mostly in daylight, even. That's a lot better than riding overnight.

You got the hills and the time. You should totally do it.
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If you race, you will do it in the off season. Days are shorter, and darkness is real.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
You got the hills and the time. You should totally do it.
But sadly not the body. I'd be happy to consistently ride enough to do a proper century ride again.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
How do you know how well we're acquainted? Anyway, I don't at all think it's easy, I just think it's doable in a normal waking day, mostly in daylight, even. That's a lot better than riding overnight.
You mentioned it previously. I think that you posted his ride.
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Originally Posted by LAJ
If you race, you will do it in the off season. Days are shorter, and darkness is real.
Ominous.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
You got the hills and the time. You should totally do it.
How many times would you have to go up and down the bridge over the river on the cap?
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Originally Posted by genejockey
Ominous.
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
How many times would you have to go up and down the bridge over the river on the cap?

Thats not the hill I would use. Monticello for the win. Green springs would be a close second. I loath that hill on green springs.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Monticello for the win.
Ha. You're probably right - that would be a better hill... It would probably only take several hundred repeats rather than thousands.
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Hmmmmmmm.....

29032 feet/ 1290 feet = 22.5 times up Old La Honda? HA! As if.
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Originally Posted by bampilot06
Thats not the hill I would use. Monticello for the win. Green springs would be a close second. I loath that hill on green springs.
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Ha. You're probably right - that would be a better hill... It would probably only take several hundred repeats rather than thousands.
I looked - 580 repeats, give or take.
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Originally Posted by genejockey
29032 feet/ 1290 feet = 22.5 times up Old La Honda? HA! As if.
This is what I was getting at. The challenge isn't strictly about pushing your body to super-human levels. A significant barrier is the mental fatigue of repeating the same climb dozens of times.
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I still haven't gotten a flu shot this winter.
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I still haven't gotten a flu shot this winter.
The measures which are barely, if at all, containing COVID seem far more effective against Influenza.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
I just think it's doable in a normal waking day, mostly in daylight, even.
Doable by whom? Not by me, I'm sure. The most climbing I've done in a day was 12,000 feet. There is no way I could do 30,000 in a day.
It's said the way to Everest is to climb something steep, like 15%. I can climb a bit of 15% but not hours of it.
The people who can finish the thing in a reasonable time (as if anything about it is reasonable) are great climbers. Maybe they aren't all Alberto Contador but I doubt if any of them are 200 pounds.
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Originally Posted by Velo Vol
The challenge isn't strictly about pushing your body to super-human levels.
It's obviously not superhuman, because humans do it. But you're still selling it short as a physical effort. A very, very small percentage of cyclists would be able to physically complete it. I know that I couldn't.

Estimate your FTP at the best cycling shape of your life. Take 70% of that or so and pop it, along with your weight and bike weight, in to a calculator for the grade of choice. For myself, at an 8% grade, I'm coming up with 5.8mph speed climbing, ~40mph descent and I'd have to cover a total of ~140 miles. That would be 14 hours.

Nope. The legs would revolt.
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Originally Posted by big john
It's said the way to Everest is to climb something steep, like 15%.
. . . if you're trying to break the time record.
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. . . if you're trying to break the time record.
Then how long do you think it would take you to do it?
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Originally Posted by WhyFi
It's obviously not superhuman, because humans do it. But you're still selling it short as a physical effort. A very, very small percentage of cyclists would be able to physically complete it. I know that I couldn't.

Estimate your FTP at the best cycling shape of your life. Take 70% of that or so and pop it, along with your weight and bike weight, in to a calculator for the grade of choice. For myself, at an 8% grade, I'm coming up with 5.8mph speed climbing, ~40mph descent and I'd have to cover a total of ~140 miles. That would be 14 hours.

Nope. The legs would revolt.
You would have to add more time because you wouldn't instantly be going 40 once you stopped climbing nor would you be going from 40 to climbing at the bottom. Plus, being human would mean at least some bathroom breaks, even if you could pee off the bike it would slow you down. And you would have to eat, plenty by my experience. And, I couldn't stay on the bike for that many hours. I would have to get off and stretch at least.
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