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Old 02-25-09, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
I guess it's just a preference I dont get.
This is why they are riding a SS and you are not.

It's just not your thing. That's cool. But that doesn't mean it can't be their thing.
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Personally, to rip core traffic, I prefer the SS. With the dynamics of traffic, I think I'm faster on an SS than on a fixed.
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Old 02-25-09, 05:11 PM
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yeah, this isnt some moral issue -- right vs. wrong / good vs. bad.

I understand singlespeeds and rode one for years. I understand fixed conversions, but I dont get converting classic roadies to singlespeeds when you could just keep everything on it and not shift gears. I dont get the point. He's obviously not looking for a performance upgrade (if so, then those deltas would have been replaced). He's not a weight weannie and I doubt it's a maintaince thing since that would almost a lateral move. fashion/style maybe? that colagno has tons of that.

but whatever -- it's his bike.
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Old 02-25-09, 05:15 PM
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I wonder if he busted something in the ders, that's what prompted the MTB conversion for me.
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Old 02-25-09, 05:16 PM
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maybe
or he built it up himself and ran out of $
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hmm is that a road crank with singles stack bolts or a track crank?
I've always loved the look of deltas. I remember when they were new I lusted after a set of those soooo badly.
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Old 02-25-09, 05:22 PM
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yeah deltas are hot -- 1980s italian techno style.



supposedly, they are more of "speed modulators" than brakes but I've never ridden them myself. that's the word on the street.
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Old 02-25-09, 05:27 PM
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I've known a few people who switched them out after some white knuckling rides. Don;t think I'd want to trust them to stop me in the midst of "playin' in traffic"
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Old 02-25-09, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Geordi Laforge
yeah, this isnt some moral issue -- right vs. wrong / good vs. bad.
I understand singlespeeds and rode one for years. I understand fixed conversions, but I dont get converting classic roadies to singlespeeds when you could just keep everything on it and not shift gears. I dont get the point. He's obviously not looking for a performance upgrade (if so, then those deltas would have been replaced). He's not a weight weannie and I doubt it's a maintaince thing since that would almost a lateral move. fashion/style maybe? that colagno has tons of that.
but whatever -- it's his bike.

First of all, it isn't a conversion. I bought it new as a frameset.

Secondly, the reason why it's SS and not geared (as it should be, I agree) is I already had a lot of these parts including the gorgeous pista crankset. Found this frame and thought, why not.

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now we know
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So what? Why does it matter to you? Why is your opinion so important on the matter?
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Old 02-25-09, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by schnee
So what? Why does it matter to you? Why is your opinion so important on the matter?
Why are you posting? The Colagno is a real nice bike, i would eventually but some gears on it but mashing around on it ss is still sweet
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Old 02-25-09, 07:41 PM
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it's a beautiful bike even SS...

and i'd rather it be SS rather than built up with some SORA shifters or something godawful.
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Old 02-25-09, 09:30 PM
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Why are you posting?
to cause trouble
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Old 02-25-09, 11:54 PM
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thanks for the info on the surly!

1) What size rim do you need to have (minimum) to get those 50mm tires on! What type of clearances are we talking? Is this something any old road frame can handle, or only a boss surly frame.


2) lets stop fighting about the Italian bike, I think we can all agree that delta brakes are hot...so we all like delta brakes which makes us all cool and all from the same tribe. I would totally sacrifice my braking power for a pair of delta speed modulators!
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Old 02-26-09, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ^oZ
Found this frame and thought, why not.
The connotation/denotation of “found” leaves me wondering... “Triple Lindy dumpster dive” or “Louisiana-ish purchase”?

Since riding a SS/FG is about embracing the simplicity and minimalist ethos of the direct drive train it seem wasteful and excessive to carry derailleurs & non-essential hardware, especially in the flattest of all lands. More a trainer than a here-to-there shuttle. Is the downtube beaded?

PS. Carnaval in Maastricht is the be it and end all of a proper costume party.
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Old 02-26-09, 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Drwecki
thanks for the info on the surly!

1) What size rim do you need to have (minimum) to get those 50mm tires on! What type of clearances are we talking? Is this something any old road frame can handle, or only a boss surly frame.


2) lets stop fighting about the Italian bike, I think we can all agree that delta brakes are hot...so we all like delta brakes which makes us all cool and all from the same tribe. I would totally sacrifice my braking power for a pair of delta speed modulators!
Well, I'm over what is recommended for the Mavics. The max they say is a 30mm tire. I think it's a 22mm rim is minimum, but I'm looking into getting a pair of Salsa Delgado rims for the tires. You can't put these tires on any bike though so you have to make sure your frame can take big tires. Surly Crosschecks are the only cross frames that I know of that can take such large tires. Any other frame you look into would be a touring frame and that geometry may be a bit too slow
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Old 02-26-09, 12:38 AM
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how's the braking on those ceramic mavics?
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Old 02-26-09, 01:07 AM
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was

then

now

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Old 02-26-09, 01:34 AM
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wow! thats dawes is really clean. did you paint the frame silver or just clear coat over the steel?
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its a strange mettalic silver/gold color. kinda cool. but i still might just paint it white... or wait till i get a new frame at some point.
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Originally Posted by BaronDapcher
The connotation/denotation of “found” leaves me wondering... “Triple Lindy dumpster dive” or “Louisiana-ish purchase”?

Since riding a SS/FG is about embracing the simplicity and minimalist ethos of the direct drive train it seem wasteful and excessive to carry derailleurs & non-essential hardware, especially in the flattest of all lands. More a trainer than a here-to-there shuttle. Is the downtube beaded?

PS. Carnaval in Maastricht is the be it and end all of a proper costume party.
Fell in love, paid good money. Isn't that how it always goes?
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Originally Posted by Gyeswho
Surly Crosschecks are the only cross frames that I know of that can take such large tires. Any other frame you look into would be a touring frame and that geometry may be a bit too slow
https://www.singularcycles.com/images/peregrine%201.jpg

The Crosscheck is probably still a bit snappier but these look promising. They'll be in the US this summer.
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Originally Posted by ^oZ
Fell in love, paid good money. Isn't that how it always goes?
Rob, loving the heerlijk vers portfolio! Echt knap werk, bijzonder goed gedaan en soms herkenbaar Nederlandse (in mijn ogen een complement). Inderdaad heerlijk!
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One girl's IRO Mark V...

So... I was very inspired by Gyeswho's "utilitarian" IRO, though I see that he's moved on to another epic build with the Surly Crosscheck!

Anyways, this is my version of the Mark V. It's still a work in progress. Sorry for the green tires - they're my "all seasons" and will likely be swapped out for something black (ok, maybe with some pink ) in the spring.

Frame: 53cm Mark V
Headset: CK
Stem: Thomson
Seatpost: Ritchie
Cranks/BB: Sugino 75 (165/46)
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Brakes/levers: Tektro

I've had the wheelset for a year or so: Mavic OPC, laced to Phil Wood high flange, fixed/free.





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