RiddleOfSteel

Thanks! Programs are Rhino 5 for the CAD work, and KeyShot 4 (super old) for the rendering. KeyShot of this era is not nearly as good at rendering things as it's 8 and 9 editions (we use 8/9 at work), but I own both Rhino 5 and KeyShot 4 outright--no bootleg copies here--and had purchased them years ago. I built the entire thing myself, using existing bike frame elements as templates.

There are several changes I'd like to make to the model, which include the seat binder bolt position. You will have to explain what "chainstay spigots" are as I am unable to find any information on them.

noglider 

I don’t really have a goal. I decided not to acquire any new bikes, and that hasn’t been hard. I picked a bike out of the trash this week because it was free, and it wasn’t a stupid move, because I have wanted a mountain bike. It’s crazy for me not to have one given all the trails and such around me.

I look at these modern bikes and think I’d love to have a gravel bike, but my newly rebuilt Super Course is pretty fantastic.

I might like to have one or two bikes that suit most of my riding purposes, so I toy with the idea of replacing most of my bikes with fewer and more expensive bikes. But I’m not close to doing that now.

I was inspired by a post here several years ago by a member who noticed that he keeps building the same bike for himself. I decided to observe myself in the same way. I seem to like two types: 1. all-purpose, all-weather bikes that are good for commuting, errands, etc and are also fun to ride, and 2. fairly zippy bikes that are fairly light and stripped down. And I have these. My fully equipped Super Course is only about 32 pounds, so I can’t even complain about that.

A modern MTB would be a whole lot nicer than an old one, but they’re expensive.

I might like a nice folding bike or mini velo.

mstateglfr 

My end goal is to have a handful of bikes that I love riding and serve me well for all my interests. Im mostly there.
- handbuilt modern steel road bike built in a frame class that fits perfectly and is fantastic quality.
- vintage schwinn premis road frame with modern 2x11sp drivetrain for indoor zwifting and to randomly ride outside.
- modern steel gravel bike with carbon fork, thru axles, hydraulic disc brakes, etc etc.
- modern steel frame with traditional looks and 3x9 drivetrain for commuting and touring(back when those were done...long ago last year).


I want 2 types of bike-
- hardtail mountain bike. rigid would be fine too, actually. A c&v frame would be great if I came upon one that fits in size, otherwise itll need to be a modern frame since they have better stack and reach measurements. Right now I use my gravel bike on the twisty flat singletrack around me and while its fun, a hardtail or rigid with larger tires and 1x would be really nice.
- a quality road bike built in 1981. dont care if it comes in the form of a frame only or if its a full bike. I have this idea that a bike from my birth year would be neat. Half of me thinks spec'ing it with period correct components would be great and half thinks yet another modern build would make it more appealing for heavy use. quality road frame in my size from 1981 is quite the specific search, and so it continues.

mstateglfr 

What happened to the Landshark Road Shark? That thing was sweet, and I thought it fit your proper bike fit numbers.
You with the goal of a single bike is wild to think about, considering how many you have gone through over the last 5 or so years. Based on your indecision on if itll be road or touring oriented, perhaps the door to owning multiple bikes is still a bit ajar?

RiddleOfSteel

The Land Shark is gone. It was indeed sweet, and was/is the template for my bike numbers. A custom frame allows me to address a few of the hindrances I had with the Land Shark. 1) I'm fine with 23s and 25s for tires, but want easy room for 25s, if not 28s--just sort of some breathing room. The Land Shark was 23mm only in front (suuuuper short axle to crown, brake pads fully up in their slots) and rear (seat tube clearance). 2) Change to vertical dropouts in back so as to be able to mount a tire fully inflated into the frame, and more easily. 3) Paint color of choice. The Land Shark's paint schem is very unique, 1 of 2 (the other is a 'funny bike') that I know of. It was in iffy condition, but still presented alright, and I would have been crucified for changing it, and even I in my mind didn't want to do it unless I needed to, and with the other hang-ups, I thought it better to let it lie and be with someone else.

When in doubt, I default to road/race. It's lighter, more responsive, looks great, faster, and I don't find them uncomfortable. A touring build can have most of that speed and responsiveness, but with fenders and carrying capacity. Perhaps its a subconscious desire for a pickup truck in bike form. Aside from a rainy day and no fenders, I don't lose with a race frame--I'll never get over them, plus, I can put all the pretty Dura-Ace components on them without having to dilute the groupset "purity" with different brakes or whatever.

The red frameset I built in CAD is pretty much a "greatest hits" of bikes I've had. 74° ST angle from the Land Shark and early Waterford Paramounts (as well as road/race Schwinns of the mid-late '80s). 73° HT angle is from those same Paramounts and racing Schwinns, as well as Trek racing bikes. Same goes for the 40mm offset forks to get a trail number at 62mm. That head tube angle also allows me to use a normal quill stem that isn't angled down due to a 73.5-75.0° HT angle like so many tall bikes. This gives me the most classic and modern stem/bar options. BB drop is 75mm, which is taken from my '74 Paramount (ok, that's actually 3" or 76mm..., but you get the idea). 58cm TT and resulting reach matches the Land Shark, and gives me many stem length, bar type, and brake/shift lever options depending on how I outfit it. The 67cm size obviously gets me the height I want, with the ability to run as tall or "slammed" a 'normal' quill stem as I like. The frameset has vertical dropouts and clears 28s with no issue. Seat cluster is taken from some other bikes and just looks soooo good. The spike/peak at the top of it takes inspiration from my former '85 Paramount. Long point lugs are just pretty, and also perhaps an ode to the chromed long point lugs of late-'70s Centurions (and other Japanese bikes).

non-fixie 

A little over ten years ago I bought an old racing bike for twenty euros. I'd grown up with bikes, but never owned a proper racing bike, and I thought it'd be fun to have one, and make it into a nice sports bike.

In my search for parts and repair plans for that bike I stumbled across this forum (and a few other ones), became a member, an subsequently learned stuff and met a lot of nice people from all over the world.

Fast forward to today: "a nice sports bike" has evolved into "the ultimate credit card touring bikes" for mrs non-fixie and myself, and doing whatever it takes for us to have a good time at the Retroronde, L 'Eroica and similar events with the many C&V bike-loving friends we have made over the years.

Like others have said before, the journey is a lot of fun, and I am in no hurry whatsoever to reach any goal, as long as I am enjoying myself and can test my new builds like this:

robertorolfo

Here, here...

iab

Do more. Buy less.

seedsbelize 

I looked at one today, for the wheel set. But they didn't spin freely, so I bought rims instead.

noglider 

@non-fixie, it's only been ten years for you?

repechage

spigots, sockets- the bottom bracket appears to have extensions at the top and the bottom of the chainstays, the views don't really show them, but would be seen from above, (or below) Bob Jackson did less elegant extensions underneath the down tube and behind the seat tube on the Olympus model.

RiddleOfSteel

I see what you're getting at. Yeah, it's all there, elongated points and smooth transition to the BB shell.

Markeologist

I just parted out a Mondia Special...if you are looking for a clean frame let me know...I might even let it go with the Campy NR headset and bottom bracket!!!

non-fixie 

Yes, I was actually a normal citizen for most of my life.

francophile 

Ditto!

Coming back from an errand, I saw this sitting on the curb 2 blocks from my house, but covered in cobwebs, dust & bird crap, and no shortage of rust on the steel parts (1st pic below after washing the funk off). With some BF love from Mad Honk and Digger Goreman along with a little bits I had around the shop, buying a new bar, grips and noodles, and some time/effort, I was able to get it rolling, up-and-going for under $125 (2nd pic).

I'd really love to replace the 7spd drivetrain and heavy beast of a crank with something lighter, and throw some knobby tires on it, but I've already taken it on a few rides after repacking everything and it's weird riding upright, but overall fun and good, and a perfect fit with the "XL" frame which didn't expect at all! Can't seem to find a good place to get used knobby tires. Can't see spending $70+ on a pair for this specific bike.

Not vintage, but it works and was "free", and something I haven't ridden yet.

non-fixie 

On another forum someone saw some of my builds and commented "why don't you just buy a new bike and be done with it?" He and I are clearly not on the same page.

LittleGinseng 

I don't have room for any more bikes.

15 years ago I lived in a 2 bedroom apartment and the count was three complete bikes. Now I live in a 4 bedroom house and the count is almost nine. Finite space is the deciding factor.

I still pursue pre-90's lightly used and NOS components on the Bay. I can just store them in a shoe box and no one's the wiser.

non-fixie 

Same here. I just spent the afternoon removing pedals from bikes, so I can pack them a bit closer and make some room. Not as effective as I hoped ...

seypat

3 pointer at the buzzer for the win, like Jimmy Chitwood.

Oh, you mean the bike hobby. No real goals. Whatever I'm feeling at the moment.

merziac

Loosen the stem and turn the bars 90 degrees, retighten lightly, carefully.

merziac

Bike bias, not even in the same book.

squirtdad

mostly i have let serendipity and karma work rather than goals

I had 2 bikes for ages a nishiki and a miyata 1400 I bought new

then a friend dropped a torpado super strada on my porch, took a lot work to get on the road and i did several versions of build, learned more about ofmega cranksets than i need to know and did my first tubulars

then the miyata died of a frame crack and I got a de rosa from a forum member. bit large for me but great grail bike

then a neighbor gave me an 84 team miyata....i pulled some newer stuff off of it and put it into eroica ready state with tubies what a fantastic ride even on the smaller range

that put a bug into me to look for a 58 cm team miyata to put modern components on

the torpado went,,still miss it and would grab a super light in 56,57,58 if I find one

a forum member found and facilitated a 85 team miyata frame.......pulled the 105 5800 group from the de rosa, which then went to a forum member

so it has all been karma and help/buying/selling from forum members including gomango Bianchigirll randyjawa RobbieTunes rccardr SJX426 malcala622 and many others

my only end goal if there is one is to eventually add a custom, probably a kirk. I am set a number of goals before I put a order in and am down to 2 left (unless my company getting acquired throws a monkey wrench into current plan)

jdawginsc 

From your words to my brain. Exactly what I would say...in all aspects.

and I agree with BFisher that there are worse hobbies/habits...one I desperately need to divest myself of.

non-fixie 

Already did that last time 'round. I'm afraid I'm really running out of space.

merziac

I hate it when that happens.