evilcryalotmore

variety.

calv

You guys are messed up man, I went through like two or three of his pages and he's a nice dude. Guy doesn't deserve to be grilled like that lol.

cc700

if that 735 is less than 400 and as light as an FTP, i'll have serious regrets about my visp and FTP.

and uhh.. emi's explanation of tubular/clincher is **** stupid but he's not exactly wrong. tubular tires can be designed for a higher pressure and that's why they're used on the track. they're also not field repairable so that's why they're not used on the street. in a tumbler post, the discussion isn't going to use much more elevated discourse. sure he could use some qualifiers on his statements, but generally he's not way off base.

as for the 735, the dropouts are a big bummer. with all that metal, it seems like it can't be that much stiffer or lighter than a 725. i will have to see it in person and ride it before i start regretting a $200 ftp, no matter how hard of a time i have getting a 30mm fork worthy of it.

Scrodzilla

Why does BikesDirect make a bunch of "different" bikes with the same frames and janky stock components?

This. Rocket scientist or not, he gave the short answer. How much detail should he have really gone into in a Tumblr post?

yummygooey

Yea, it looks like a marshmallow.

gilmatic

That BikeSnob blog is pretty hilarious yet accurate. I remember people here posting who their favorite Leader riders were, so I went to youtube these guys to see if I'd see something out of the ordinary. All I saw was a bunch of dudes "hill bombing", running red lights, cutting cars off, tailgating, or do anything else that's equally ******** and dangerous.

Scrodzilla

Oh, please. Just about everything actually worth doing is "dangerous".

hamish5178

Except for marijuana.

Scrodzilla

gorillafist

If they weren't doing anything dangerous wouldn't we just be watching them cruise along, track standing at red lights for 5 mins and using hand signals at every intersection?

gilmatic

Haha yeah right. Tricks aren't cool because they're dangerous, they're cool because there's the idea that it takes skill that the average person doesn't have.

Riding down a hill and running through a red light isn't a skill.

hamish5178

I don't understand why everyone who hates on the SF hill-bombers is also conveniently a better cyclist than them.

I know I sure as hell wouldn't last 20 minutes brakeless in SF.

raklyiz

currently building it

Scrodzilla

fixed.

hamfoh

god I love the seafoam 725

gilmatic

fixed.

Scrodzilla

I can live with it.

jasonnc80

Anybody have experience with Leaders aluminum fork? Will it absolutely buzz me to death? I have the S805 steel fork on my 721tr right now but I would really like something that would look better w/ the frame. I didn't really give a damn before since only paid about $100 for the both, but I really like it now and don't mind spending some more money on the bike The carbon fork is nice but the price is just too much to stomach right now. I really wish somebody made a carbon/steel low rake fork that was moderatly priced

evilcryalotmore

They make alot of steel low rake forks, Its just they dont fit nice on giant integrated frames.

Muncher

Where can I find the geo on the 725 frame? I want the frame because I am all torso.

Scrodzilla

On page 16 of this thread.

Muncher

Awesome now I just need more money.

cc700

i really want the carbon i806tr but not that bad. rather have a wound up if i was going to spend that much. probably just use my high rake fork on the ftp.

evilcryalotmore

There is a wound up on ebay road 40mm rake or 38mm for 150 non auction

Also i saw a track woundup at the local bike shop for 100 too, if i see one for cheap i'll pm you or something, I've been looking into wound up for a while :/

I'll pm you link its 185

cc700

yeah but it's 40, ftp needs 30.

thanks for the heads up. i never go on ebay unless i want something specific, which is the exact wrong way to use ebay