Should a high quality very costly bike be based upon ability? Not cash in hand?
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Applying the mechanic's example, I'd bet that many experienced mechanics would get a chuckle out of someone who decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars outfitting a shop if that person had never turned a wrench, and didn't know an alan bolt from a phillips head screw.
YMMV.
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every hobby i've engaged in, there has always been enthusiatic newbs that bought expensive equipment they didn't know how to use. More experineced people in the hobby tend to think these people are rather silly, although most people tend to keep it to themselves.
Applying the mechanic's example, i'd bet that many experienced mechanics would get a chuckle out of someone who decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars outfitting a shop if that person had never turned a wrench, and didn't know an alan bolt from a phillips head screw.
Ymmv.
Applying the mechanic's example, i'd bet that many experienced mechanics would get a chuckle out of someone who decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars outfitting a shop if that person had never turned a wrench, and didn't know an alan bolt from a phillips head screw.
Ymmv.
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If the OP generates a conversation and others appear to want to partake is it really trolling??? Perhaps you can educate us all on what & how to post an interesting and educational and fun post. I'll wait.....
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Step 1 is to come up with a topic that hasn't already been beat to an unrecognizable pulp countless times before. Try that.
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Cycling in Syria...that's not beat up yet is it?
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Obviously, people are free to spend their own money any way they want.
That said it does make sense for newbies to put in some time, and work their way up, before making major expenditures. Not because they dont' "deserve" a nice bike, but it's a good idea to take some time and figure out what you actually need and want.
That said it does make sense for newbies to put in some time, and work their way up, before making major expenditures. Not because they dont' "deserve" a nice bike, but it's a good idea to take some time and figure out what you actually need and want.
It would be really foolish for someone just getting interested in road cycling to drop $5,000 on a bike that they'll realize in a few months doesn't fit their needs, but hey, if they've got the money to spend.
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Would it be better to just bring back zombie threads? Should the forum just consist of a dozen or so several hundred page threads that no one reads the content of because they're too long? New forum readers, like myself, aren't tired of some of these topics yet.
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You first! Clearly there is a limited amount of topics that are conversation worthy in the world of cycling.
Would it be better to just bring back zombie threads? Should the forum just consist of a dozen or so several hundred page threads that no one reads the content of because they're too long? New forum readers, like myself, aren't tired of some of these topics yet.
Would it be better to just bring back zombie threads? Should the forum just consist of a dozen or so several hundred page threads that no one reads the content of because they're too long? New forum readers, like myself, aren't tired of some of these topics yet.
OP sometimes starts three threads a day, with very tired subject matter. It only adds to the noise level here.
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Because you're paying a substantial amount of money to finance the unnecessary purchase of a depreciating asset.
You'll likely end up in a situation where the debt exceeds the value of the bike for a number of years, depending on how you finance it. If you dont have the cash for such a discretionary purchase, it makes little sense to incur that financial risk.
"Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it ... he who doesn't ... pays it"
You'll likely end up in a situation where the debt exceeds the value of the bike for a number of years, depending on how you finance it. If you dont have the cash for such a discretionary purchase, it makes little sense to incur that financial risk.
"Compound interest is the eighth wonder of the world. He who understands it, earns it ... he who doesn't ... pays it"
I think its silly to buy 'toys' on credit. however, there are instances where it is a good idea IF you are a responsible user of credit. like if they are offering 0% for 12 months. rarely though do people pay it off prior to getting charged with interest though. those that do are using it wisely.
some people with low means view finances on a monthly cash flow point of view with little regard to long term financial health. and often the reason so many people have a ton of recurring $5-10 monthly charges (ugh, don't get me started on that stuff!!)
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If I cycle in Syria, will the Chemical exposure make me test positive for PED's?
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I don't think "we've"ever had a conversation before, and if so it certainly wasn't this one.
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Every hobby I've engaged in, there has always been enthusiatic newbs that bought expensive equipment they didn't know how to use. More experineced people in the hobby tend to think these people are rather silly, although most people tend to keep it to themselves.
Applying the mechanic's example, I'd bet that many experienced mechanics would get a chuckle out of someone who decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars outfitting a shop if that person had never turned a wrench, and didn't know an alan bolt from a phillips head screw.
YMMV.
Applying the mechanic's example, I'd bet that many experienced mechanics would get a chuckle out of someone who decided to spend tens of thousands of dollars outfitting a shop if that person had never turned a wrench, and didn't know an alan bolt from a phillips head screw.
YMMV.
as I've said many time on several different forums (this one included), I can't afford to buy cheap stuff. that does not mean buy a McLaren Venge, it means buying smart. I would never have bought a GMC Denali to get into road cycling, but my GT has been excellent and worth every penny even though I didn't buy expensive stuff.
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The thing is, your assertion was over a scope broader than your experience. It doesn't matter if you don't see it in your other hobbies; the fact that it does occur in other hobbies you don't pursue does mean that the phenomenon occurs in other venues. Including in the real world.
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Sometimes I ride my Cervelo slowly. Last weekend I went backpacking, and carried far too much stuff (warmth and camera gear) up six miles up a mountain, then back down the next day. The following day I went for a real slow recovery ride, in my clipless sandals.
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You should be ashamed of yourself; this belongs on the "Confessions" thread...
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thank god you weren't in a bikini.
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Well, as I was taking care of my morning business and reading the latest Road Bike action they reviewed the New Calfee suspension bike and I was drooling hoping to win the lottery just to have the chance to how one.....it got me to thinking??? am I worthy? Sadly nope was the answer, purely based on my empty wallet, thus the post...sorry if it ruined your day, but sometimes it does get under my skin that money = better stuff and the quality of the athlete = zippo. Luv that bike...
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Well, as I was taking care of my morning business and reading the latest Road Bike action they reviewed the New Calfee suspension bike and I was drooling hoping to win the lottery just to have the chance to how one.....it got me to thinking??? am I worthy? Sadly nope was the answer, purely based on my empty wallet, thus the post...sorry if it ruined your day, but sometimes it does get under my skin that money = better stuff and the quality of the athlete = zippo. Luv that bike...
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Well, as I was taking care of my morning business and reading the latest Road Bike action they reviewed the New Calfee suspension bike and I was drooling hoping to win the lottery just to have the chance to how one.....it got me to thinking??? am I worthy? Sadly nope was the answer, purely based on my empty wallet, thus the post...sorry if it ruined your day, but sometimes it does get under my skin that money = better stuff and the quality of the athlete = zippo. Luv that bike...
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I like it - no carbon anything until you can demonstrate your ability to dial it up to 400W and drope the hamer.
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