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I came across this line for Nats:
"Noncompliance or refusing to betested will result in the same penalties as a dopingviolation."
The same penalties as What?
"Noncompliance or refusing to betested will result in the same penalties as a dopingviolation."
The same penalties as What?
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Suspensions and penalties seem to be based on the way the wind is blowing and depending on what the substance is.
Does the suspension time for refusing to give a sample vary the same too?
Would a cheating rider be better off to refuse the test than be caught with something they feel like giving you the maximum penalty?
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I recently changed to a cheap FLIR cam to check for electrical hot spots at work. Plugs into a phone or tablet with downloaded app (FLIRONE). Costs about $250. Works almost as well as an expensive cam we used to use. Would easily see a motor (or a battery).
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I just posted this and posted before. Too many electronics are allowed in bikes. Allowed now are batteries, computers wires....
Get rid of it all and goto a clean mechanical bike with nothing internal.
Discs can be made into motors too. Just increasing the opportunity to do other things.
Get rid of it all and goto a clean mechanical bike with nothing internal.
Discs can be made into motors too. Just increasing the opportunity to do other things.
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Just saw this study on another forum: Incidental Clostebol Contamination in Athletes after Sexual Intercourse
It's a hell of a claim to make to justify why one might have an illegal substance in their system.
It's a hell of a claim to make to justify why one might have an illegal substance in their system.
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Flying under the radar at the moment, but a heart attack on a U23 rider is never a good sign.
"A spokesperson for Team Wiggins also stated that their mechanic, Mick Bell, had been called to perform CPR on a Dutch athlete on Monday night after a rider from the Dutch national team suffered a suspected heart attack. According to the Team Wiggins spokesperson Bell was called into help as he knew first aid, and helped the rider before the paramedics arrived on the scene."
It's in the Wiggans stolen bike article.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-responds-to-reports-of-disc-brake-trial-reinstatement-news-shorts/
"A spokesperson for Team Wiggins also stated that their mechanic, Mick Bell, had been called to perform CPR on a Dutch athlete on Monday night after a rider from the Dutch national team suffered a suspected heart attack. According to the Team Wiggins spokesperson Bell was called into help as he knew first aid, and helped the rider before the paramedics arrived on the scene."
It's in the Wiggans stolen bike article.
https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/uci-responds-to-reports-of-disc-brake-trial-reinstatement-news-shorts/
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I would assume/hope they would be checking the bike of the winner of a race at that level!
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Adrien weighs like 100lbs and has been cleaning house on p12 climbing races for years.
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I was looking at the Peace Race TT results (while at the TT) and wonder boy did a 20" better result (they vary from 12k, 11.6K, 11.2K) than anyone recorded in 45 years.
This is comparing to Sagan, Adrian, Kiwakowski....
It appears to me, USA 2nd time in a row, will be the top junior cycling nation.
USAC has about 15 Cat1 juniors now, where 3 years ago there were 2-3.
As in other sports that don't pay so much I do not expect the trend to be maintained into adult pros - sans Adrian and Brandon.
Those two are extremely unusual, but I have seen enough data to show what happens at <20 is different than what happens at 25. Still - those guys are something else.
This is comparing to Sagan, Adrian, Kiwakowski....
It appears to me, USA 2nd time in a row, will be the top junior cycling nation.
USAC has about 15 Cat1 juniors now, where 3 years ago there were 2-3.
As in other sports that don't pay so much I do not expect the trend to be maintained into adult pros - sans Adrian and Brandon.
Those two are extremely unusual, but I have seen enough data to show what happens at <20 is different than what happens at 25. Still - those guys are something else.
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"There are roughly 50,000 amateur bike racers in the United States, and the budget to police them barely hits six figures."
Cycling's biggest threat: Amateur doping - VeloNews.com
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USAC kics him off the committee after giving his opinion. Anti-doping adviser makes case for legalising drugs and blood transfusions | | The Times & The Sunday Times
https://www.usacycling.org/usac-anno...-committee.htm
https://www.usacycling.org/usac-anno...-committee.htm
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Re: heart attacks.
I worked with someone who was, on the surface, active and fit - soccer for many years, slim build, etc. A girl so I'll add that as far as I can tell no eating disorders, and, again as far as I know, no drugs. She collapsed while working at a different job (retail store). She was lucky that she collapsed there as she'd been called in last minute. If she had been at home she probably would have died. Ends up she had some kind of a heart attack. I think she was 18 at the time. She now has some gizmo in her chest, a sort of built in pacemaker or something, it's supposed to kick in if her heart goes nuts again. I think it's some genetic thing because her biological family members got tested as a precaution.
I think of her when I see that someone young had a heart attack. Until that happened to her I always thought "doper!". Now I don't make that judgment, no matter what. She could have been playing soccer when she keeled over. Imagine if she was a cyclist and had a heart attack? I cringe to think about what people would say about her.
I worked with someone who was, on the surface, active and fit - soccer for many years, slim build, etc. A girl so I'll add that as far as I can tell no eating disorders, and, again as far as I know, no drugs. She collapsed while working at a different job (retail store). She was lucky that she collapsed there as she'd been called in last minute. If she had been at home she probably would have died. Ends up she had some kind of a heart attack. I think she was 18 at the time. She now has some gizmo in her chest, a sort of built in pacemaker or something, it's supposed to kick in if her heart goes nuts again. I think it's some genetic thing because her biological family members got tested as a precaution.
I think of her when I see that someone young had a heart attack. Until that happened to her I always thought "doper!". Now I don't make that judgment, no matter what. She could have been playing soccer when she keeled over. Imagine if she was a cyclist and had a heart attack? I cringe to think about what people would say about her.
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