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Yopo,
Did you compare the Orbea Diem with any other higher-end flat bar fitness/hybrid bikes? The Orbea caught my eye but I couldn't find a dealer that had one for me to see or ride.
Did you compare the Orbea Diem with any other higher-end flat bar fitness/hybrid bikes? The Orbea caught my eye but I couldn't find a dealer that had one for me to see or ride.
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It costs more than $2000 because it has a carbon frame and fork and ultegra components ... this brings the weight down to about 10 kilos.
If you would get a bike that is almost exactly the same bike but with an aluminum frame and fork and ... let's say ... a 105 group of components, that bike would cost less than half the price of this-one, while only weighing about 1 or max 2 kilos more.
Do you want to pay $1000+ for a bit more than 1 kilo off of the total weight of your weight plus the weight of your bike?
Unless you are planning on doing amateur races, I personally think that there is no reason for this, but you are free to spend your money on whatever you like, ofcourse.
Take a look at the Orbea Aneto, for instance, and compare the price and the weight & components to the Diem Ice
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another thing, carbon is fragile... With heavy use they develop microscopic cracks, then fails catastrophically. OTOH, aluminum frames either ride like a wet noodle, or are too stiff and harsh.
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The trick is to get a quality aluminum frame that is made from the exact right blend of elements and more importantly to get one that has been post-heated long and hot enough to be extra strong. My frame was made at a respected factory a few miles from where I live and is made from triple butted quality made 7005 aluminum, which is a world of difference compared to typical cheap taiwanese aluminum frames you see all over the place these days.
My frame being stiff is not a problem for me, since I have both front fork and seatpost suspension
My frame being stiff is not a problem for me, since I have both front fork and seatpost suspension
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suspension
My frame being stiff is not a problem for me, since I have both front fork and seatpost suspension
Can you lock out your forks, and your seat post ? Just wondering , Richard
Can you lock out your forks, and your seat post ? Just wondering , Richard
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I can lock out the fork, not the post ... but I have set the post to a pretty high pressure so that it will only aid in countering unexpected potholes but will not budge due to basic pedalling.
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Can also appreciate a stiff frame... my old Trek was U.S. made and has a 7 series ZX frame and chromo fork and is stiff as Turkish coffee but has an absolutely wonderful ride all due to the 700:35 cross tyres.
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It costs more than $2000 because it has a carbon frame and fork and ultegra components ... this brings the weight down to about 10 kilos.
If you would get a bike that is almost exactly the same bike but with an aluminum frame and fork and ... let's say ... a 105 group of components, that bike would cost less than half the price of this-one, while only weighing about 1 or max 2 kilos more.
Do you want to pay $1000+ for a bit more than 1 kilo off of the total weight of your weight plus the weight of your bike?
If you would get a bike that is almost exactly the same bike but with an aluminum frame and fork and ... let's say ... a 105 group of components, that bike would cost less than half the price of this-one, while only weighing about 1 or max 2 kilos more.
Do you want to pay $1000+ for a bit more than 1 kilo off of the total weight of your weight plus the weight of your bike?
But there is something (subjective) about the Orbea that makes it more enjoyable to ride. I also somehow get more enjoyment in cleaning and taking care of it. It does not shout for attention but yet attracts a lot of positive comments with the other bikers, and I could not agree more. IMHO, getting a bike with an aluminum frame will not get you something almost exactly or as close to the Orbea.
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I own a 2010 Trek 7.7FX that comes with 105 group of components. Yes, the 7.7FX is not as expensive (costs about 2/3 than that of the Diem), its just a bit heavier (I think a little more than kilo than the Diem), and not as fragile (i.e. I'm afraid of hanging the Orbea on a bike rack for fear that it may crack). And to be very honest, a fitness/recreational rider like me can't tell any big difference in the ride quality and speed between the two bikes!
But there is something (subjective) about the Orbea that makes it more enjoyable to ride. I also somehow get more enjoyment in cleaning and taking care of it. It does not shout for attention but yet attracts a lot of positive comments with the other bikers, and I could not agree more. IMHO, getting a bike with an aluminum frame will not get you something almost exactly or as close to the Orbea.
But there is something (subjective) about the Orbea that makes it more enjoyable to ride. I also somehow get more enjoyment in cleaning and taking care of it. It does not shout for attention but yet attracts a lot of positive comments with the other bikers, and I could not agree more. IMHO, getting a bike with an aluminum frame will not get you something almost exactly or as close to the Orbea.
If anyone wants to spend thousands of dollars on a pro bike to -as you describe it- "attract a lot of positive comments with the other bikers", than that is ofcourse their good right ... but then it is also my good right to disregard that sort of infantile behaviour as "silly".
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I own a 2010 Trek 7.7FX that comes with 105 group of components. Yes, the 7.7FX is not as expensive (costs about 2/3 than that of the Diem), its just a bit heavier (I think a little more than kilo than the Diem), and not as fragile (i.e. I'm afraid of hanging the Orbea on a bike rack for fear that it may crack). And to be very honest, a fitness/recreational rider like me can't tell any big difference in the ride quality and speed between the two bikes!
But there is something (subjective) about the Orbea that makes it more enjoyable to ride. I also somehow get more enjoyment in cleaning and taking care of it. It does not shout for attention but yet attracts a lot of positive comments with the other bikers, and I could not agree more. IMHO, getting a bike with an aluminum frame will not get you something almost exactly or as close to the Orbea.
But there is something (subjective) about the Orbea that makes it more enjoyable to ride. I also somehow get more enjoyment in cleaning and taking care of it. It does not shout for attention but yet attracts a lot of positive comments with the other bikers, and I could not agree more. IMHO, getting a bike with an aluminum frame will not get you something almost exactly or as close to the Orbea.
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The handlebar setup, revised
When I first posted photos of Trigger there had been comments about the handle bars and I decided to take some advice from another forum on here.
After a stop at my LBS this morning this is what my handlebar setup looks like.
After a stop at my LBS this morning this is what my handlebar setup looks like.
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Just finished up converting the old Crossroads to 9 speed for my daughter. Popped a quick pick as taking her out for a test ride. Mostly a LX drivetrain now with shifters, crank, bb, and rd. XT fd and XTR chain. Also put on an Easton Monkey Bar with ergon grips and shorter quill stem. Dropped to a pretty decent 26lbs.
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Good eye.
Kerrvillian, I'm glad the shop guy was able to get that stuck bolt loose, but I think he forgot to adjust the position of your controls after repositioning the stem and barends. Reset them so your wrists are more in line with your forearms when braking. Safer and more comfortable braking.
Kerrvillian, I'm glad the shop guy was able to get that stuck bolt loose, but I think he forgot to adjust the position of your controls after repositioning the stem and barends. Reset them so your wrists are more in line with your forearms when braking. Safer and more comfortable braking.
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Good eye.
Kerrvillian, I'm glad the shop guy was able to get that stuck bolt loose, but I think he forgot to adjust the position of your controls after repositioning the stem and barends. Reset them so your wrists are more in line with your forearms when braking. Safer and more comfortable braking.
Kerrvillian, I'm glad the shop guy was able to get that stuck bolt loose, but I think he forgot to adjust the position of your controls after repositioning the stem and barends. Reset them so your wrists are more in line with your forearms when braking. Safer and more comfortable braking.
I got one of these in my toolkit, its really handy.
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Good eye.
Kerrvillian, I'm glad the shop guy was able to get that stuck bolt loose, but I think he forgot to adjust the position of your controls after repositioning the stem and barends. Reset them so your wrists are more in line with your forearms when braking. Safer and more comfortable braking.
Kerrvillian, I'm glad the shop guy was able to get that stuck bolt loose, but I think he forgot to adjust the position of your controls after repositioning the stem and barends. Reset them so your wrists are more in line with your forearms when braking. Safer and more comfortable braking.
UPDATE: Got Trigger inside to make the adjustments. Will be trying it out on my ride this morning.
Second update: I'm not much of a cyclist by the standards of many on here but I did get out to ride. Original intent was to go nine miles but felt pretty lagged after my mid-point turn around. Since I'm starting a new blood pressure medication today I suspect that may have played into the feeling.
The ride: I'm feeling more power. I don't have empirical evidence but feel I was faster, at least on the ride out. I didn't reset the cycle computer before the ride so it's still reading the same average MPH.
More strain on the arms. Made sure to keep the elbows at least partially bent. No hand numbness from the ride. Kept varying my grip position to prevent it.
Positive changes.
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Here's my hybrid that I've been using to commute for the past few weeks. I just added the bar ends and new saddle tonight. I'm looking forward to trying them both out tomorrow morning.
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Here's my Jamis Citizen 1. It's really plain, but it's my first bike since I was a kid. I'm still working out the seat position, but other than that's I've really enjoyed riding it
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Thanks!