Chocolate pea milk as a recovery drink?
09-08-17, 11:38 AM
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I am drinking chocolate pea drink as I type. Yup my daughter left some here. This is Evolve brand.
160 calories and 15g carbs, 20g protein - 10g of fibre, 3g sugar. It has alkalized cocoa powder, and cane sugar and also stevia extract for sweetener. I would rather have it less sweet, or more cane sugar. Nothing wrong with stevia that I've heard, I just don't like the taste and I think more sugar wouldn't hurt.
My opinion is protein is a bit high for an aerobic activity, I'd like more sugar over stevia for taste and for aerobic workouts (like the running I just did) is better.. I can't think it hurts much, this seems more like a post weight lifting drink.
Seems like good quality stuff though.
160 calories and 15g carbs, 20g protein - 10g of fibre, 3g sugar. It has alkalized cocoa powder, and cane sugar and also stevia extract for sweetener. I would rather have it less sweet, or more cane sugar. Nothing wrong with stevia that I've heard, I just don't like the taste and I think more sugar wouldn't hurt.
My opinion is protein is a bit high for an aerobic activity, I'd like more sugar over stevia for taste and for aerobic workouts (like the running I just did) is better.. I can't think it hurts much, this seems more like a post weight lifting drink.
Seems like good quality stuff though.
09-08-17, 12:54 PM
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I got a chuckle out of this post. Have you though what is required for recovery after ordinary exercise? Not much, maybe a drink of water to re-hydrate if you haven't been drinking while riding. Vigorous exercise and a long ride. Perhaps a some carbohydrates to renew the stored glycogen that you use during your ride. Protein replacement? That doesn't make much sense as your body is not destroying muscle tissue at a massive rate. The feeling of getting tired is more the result of the buildup of lactic acid in the muscles. During vigorous exercise it builds up faster than the body can remove it so you get tired. Once you stop and rest, your body takes care of itself.
If you know the history of sports drinks like Gatorade, they were modeled after warm blooded Ringers solution. Biology labs use it to keep organs alive for short periods of time. It is supposed to be the exact same concentration of salts and carbohydrates as is in your cellular fluid. The thought was if you drink it you will maintain the salt balance and that would be an improvement over drinking water. The truth is it is very inexpensive to make so there is a lot of profit to be made on it. Thinks a few cents per gallon. The plastic bottle used to package it costs way more than the contents.
Most of the new plant based “milks” are mostly water and sugar with ground up nuts or other plant material. The prices are ridiculous. If you produce a gallon of milk, you need a cow, a place to house it, feed for the cow, milking equipment, refrigerated storage, transportation to a dairy, pasteurization and bottling, and finally a store to sell it. Milk is selling for $2.69 a gallon where I live. I've tried soy “milk” and almond “milk”. Both were far sweeter than regular milk. That may be why so many people drink them as we seem to be addicted to sweet foods.
If you don't like milk or can't tolerate it so be it. That's a valid reason for choosing something else. The idea that having once seen a dairy milking parlor or cows in the field will keep me from drinking milk is ridiculous. I spent 3 years living on a dairy farm in Wisconsin. There was nothing more delicious than a glass of milk drawn from the bulk cooler. It wasn't something I would consume in large quantities because the fat content was over normal whole milk. The dairy industry made a big mistake by not challenging the use of “milk” when it comes to plant based drinks. BTW, better give up pork and beef If you ever saw the way pigs are grown and how bad they smell, you might have the same idea.
If you know the history of sports drinks like Gatorade, they were modeled after warm blooded Ringers solution. Biology labs use it to keep organs alive for short periods of time. It is supposed to be the exact same concentration of salts and carbohydrates as is in your cellular fluid. The thought was if you drink it you will maintain the salt balance and that would be an improvement over drinking water. The truth is it is very inexpensive to make so there is a lot of profit to be made on it. Thinks a few cents per gallon. The plastic bottle used to package it costs way more than the contents.
Most of the new plant based “milks” are mostly water and sugar with ground up nuts or other plant material. The prices are ridiculous. If you produce a gallon of milk, you need a cow, a place to house it, feed for the cow, milking equipment, refrigerated storage, transportation to a dairy, pasteurization and bottling, and finally a store to sell it. Milk is selling for $2.69 a gallon where I live. I've tried soy “milk” and almond “milk”. Both were far sweeter than regular milk. That may be why so many people drink them as we seem to be addicted to sweet foods.
If you don't like milk or can't tolerate it so be it. That's a valid reason for choosing something else. The idea that having once seen a dairy milking parlor or cows in the field will keep me from drinking milk is ridiculous. I spent 3 years living on a dairy farm in Wisconsin. There was nothing more delicious than a glass of milk drawn from the bulk cooler. It wasn't something I would consume in large quantities because the fat content was over normal whole milk. The dairy industry made a big mistake by not challenging the use of “milk” when it comes to plant based drinks. BTW, better give up pork and beef If you ever saw the way pigs are grown and how bad they smell, you might have the same idea.
09-08-17, 01:27 PM
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09-08-17, 04:04 PM
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It's one of the first days that it has cooled off in northern Cal in recent memory, the delicious ocean breezes are wafting in, again, from the Pacific and cleaning out all the smoke from the various wildfires. So, I said to hell with work and went out and hammered for about 80 miles or so today. It was just too beautiful to resist.
Now, I am unashamedly "recovering" with a big, cold glass of milk that comes packaged in a glass bottle, produced by the contented cows grazing on those gorgeous hills above Tomales Bay, north of San Francisco. In about 2 or 3 hour's time, I will be continuing my "recovery" with a couple pints of my favorite hop milk, also originating from the same general area.
Now, I am unashamedly "recovering" with a big, cold glass of milk that comes packaged in a glass bottle, produced by the contented cows grazing on those gorgeous hills above Tomales Bay, north of San Francisco. In about 2 or 3 hour's time, I will be continuing my "recovery" with a couple pints of my favorite hop milk, also originating from the same general area.
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I got a chuckle out of this post. Have you though what is required for recovery after ordinary exercise? Not much, maybe a drink of water to re-hydrate if you haven't been drinking while riding. Vigorous exercise and a long ride. Perhaps a some carbohydrates to renew the stored glycogen that you use during your ride. Protein replacement? That doesn't make much sense as your body is not destroying muscle tissue at a massive rate. The feeling of getting tired is more the result of the buildup of lactic acid in the muscles. During vigorous exercise it builds up faster than the body can remove it so you get tired. Once you stop and rest, your body takes care of itself.
If you know the history of sports drinks like Gatorade, they were modeled after warm blooded Ringers solution. Biology labs use it to keep organs alive for short periods of time. It is supposed to be the exact same concentration of salts and carbohydrates as is in your cellular fluid. The thought was if you drink it you will maintain the salt balance and that would be an improvement over drinking water. The truth is it is very inexpensive to make so there is a lot of profit to be made on it. Thinks a few cents per gallon. The plastic bottle used to package it costs way more than the contents.
Most of the new plant based “milks” are mostly water and sugar with ground up nuts or other plant material. The prices are ridiculous. If you produce a gallon of milk, you need a cow, a place to house it, feed for the cow, milking equipment, refrigerated storage, transportation to a dairy, pasteurization and bottling, and finally a store to sell it. Milk is selling for $2.69 a gallon where I live. I've tried soy “milk” and almond “milk”. Both were far sweeter than regular milk. That may be why so many people drink them as we seem to be addicted to sweet foods.
If you don't like milk or can't tolerate it so be it. That's a valid reason for choosing something else. The idea that having once seen a dairy milking parlor or cows in the field will keep me from drinking milk is ridiculous. I spent 3 years living on a dairy farm in Wisconsin. There was nothing more delicious than a glass of milk drawn from the bulk cooler. It wasn't something I would consume in large quantities because the fat content was over normal whole milk. The dairy industry made a big mistake by not challenging the use of “milk” when it comes to plant based drinks. BTW, better give up pork and beef If you ever saw the way pigs are grown and how bad they smell, you might have the same idea.
If you know the history of sports drinks like Gatorade, they were modeled after warm blooded Ringers solution. Biology labs use it to keep organs alive for short periods of time. It is supposed to be the exact same concentration of salts and carbohydrates as is in your cellular fluid. The thought was if you drink it you will maintain the salt balance and that would be an improvement over drinking water. The truth is it is very inexpensive to make so there is a lot of profit to be made on it. Thinks a few cents per gallon. The plastic bottle used to package it costs way more than the contents.
Most of the new plant based “milks” are mostly water and sugar with ground up nuts or other plant material. The prices are ridiculous. If you produce a gallon of milk, you need a cow, a place to house it, feed for the cow, milking equipment, refrigerated storage, transportation to a dairy, pasteurization and bottling, and finally a store to sell it. Milk is selling for $2.69 a gallon where I live. I've tried soy “milk” and almond “milk”. Both were far sweeter than regular milk. That may be why so many people drink them as we seem to be addicted to sweet foods.
If you don't like milk or can't tolerate it so be it. That's a valid reason for choosing something else. The idea that having once seen a dairy milking parlor or cows in the field will keep me from drinking milk is ridiculous. I spent 3 years living on a dairy farm in Wisconsin. There was nothing more delicious than a glass of milk drawn from the bulk cooler. It wasn't something I would consume in large quantities because the fat content was over normal whole milk. The dairy industry made a big mistake by not challenging the use of “milk” when it comes to plant based drinks. BTW, better give up pork and beef If you ever saw the way pigs are grown and how bad they smell, you might have the same idea.
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...just finished a recovery omelette. It contained mushrooms, onions, and smoked salmon.
Fortunately, I read the post about being too tired to chew, so the filling ingredients were diced bite sized.
I am thankful for the collective experience here in the road forum.
...just finished a recovery omelette. It contained mushrooms, onions, and smoked salmon.
Fortunately, I read the post about being too tired to chew, so the filling ingredients were diced bite sized.
I am thankful for the collective experience here in the road forum.
09-08-17, 04:24 PM
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Did I just get educated about my ignorance?
At least I own a lactic acid tester.
At least I own a lactic acid tester.
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09-08-17, 04:34 PM
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And what of that delicious wine that the Germans call: Liebfraumilch? Hmmm?
Go do a Google Translate on that one and we're back to talking about teets, my friend.
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But that chocolate pea protein is not looking so inexpensive.
I actually don't see it being called milk except by the OP who has left this thread. So we could discuss road bikes now...
Kid about age 12 or so would race with chocolate milk. One day he finished a hot race with dried chocolate milk from head too bike. He forgot and poured it over him to cool down.
He went to straight water after that. But yea, this is a recovery thread. So OT a bit.
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i'm lactose intolerant but I can handle Lactaid or other lactose-free milks but not a large glass at a time. A half-glass is my max. I'll have to try this pea milkjuice thing soon, if I start to need protein up post gym (usually Dec-May). I normally just eat food to replenish- rice, oatmeal, chicken, veggies etc. I'm still looking for a recovery drink.
09-08-17, 09:39 PM
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Here's what I've found.
If I eat my normal pre ride meal with whey protein, I'll crop dust you for a number of miles.
If I eat it with pea, or other plant based protein, you're mostly safe.
Take your pick.
If I eat my normal pre ride meal with whey protein, I'll crop dust you for a number of miles.
If I eat it with pea, or other plant based protein, you're mostly safe.
Take your pick.
09-09-17, 03:49 PM
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Just on the wee chance the OP is still reading or anyone cares.
The most effective proteins are animal product. Search PER or Protein efficiency ratio and you can find more information. If you find calcium casinate, or sodium calcium caseinate these cost more (3X?), don't dissolve as well, but are better digested by some. Whey protein is economical and what most powders use. You can get better PER, but normally need to go to meats. So for powders Casein has a 2.5, peas have a 1.2-1.42 (yellow).
As this thread is not about pre-meal, fueling or body building, rather recovery from an aerobic activity you really don't need all that protein.
I had some more after my ride today, to recover. I think it worked pretty well. I likely could have done as well with the heavy toast and dark chocolate, but I made a shake with the Fair Life milk and it was good.
Then I had an IPA...
The most effective proteins are animal product. Search PER or Protein efficiency ratio and you can find more information. If you find calcium casinate, or sodium calcium caseinate these cost more (3X?), don't dissolve as well, but are better digested by some. Whey protein is economical and what most powders use. You can get better PER, but normally need to go to meats. So for powders Casein has a 2.5, peas have a 1.2-1.42 (yellow).
As this thread is not about pre-meal, fueling or body building, rather recovery from an aerobic activity you really don't need all that protein.
I had some more after my ride today, to recover. I think it worked pretty well. I likely could have done as well with the heavy toast and dark chocolate, but I made a shake with the Fair Life milk and it was good.
Then I had an IPA...
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When did peas get nipples?
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I read the "milk" in the title, but I can find the word when I buy it, or when I mix it.
I believe the OP (who we have not heard from since post 1), just means the pea protein powder and milk - other than the color has nothing to do with it.
It is not a milk substitute and didn't come from a gland. It seems to be crushed peas and coco and stuff.
Or is there a milk in this someplace?
I believe the OP (who we have not heard from since post 1), just means the pea protein powder and milk - other than the color has nothing to do with it.
It is not a milk substitute and didn't come from a gland. It seems to be crushed peas and coco and stuff.
Or is there a milk in this someplace?
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I read the "milk" in the title, but I can find the word when I buy it, or when I mix it.
I believe the OP (who we have not heard from since post 1), just means the pea protein powder and milk - other than the color has nothing to do with it.
It is not a milk substitute and didn't come from a gland. It seems to be crushed peas and coco and stuff.
Or is there a milk in this someplace?
I believe the OP (who we have not heard from since post 1), just means the pea protein powder and milk - other than the color has nothing to do with it.
It is not a milk substitute and didn't come from a gland. It seems to be crushed peas and coco and stuff.
Or is there a milk in this someplace?