Why are old bike parts so sucky?
12-05-17, 06:21 PM
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The past week or so I've been riding hydro disc. Geez, it's like being on the Schwinn Bantam again: locking the rear in skid. No way am I touching the front brake lever.
12-05-17, 07:39 PM
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As it happens, Issue #60 of Bicycle Quarterly has an article by J.P. Weigle about a recent trip to Japan, where among other things, he visited the Japanese constructeur C.S. Hirose and was shown a Huret Allvit derailleur modified for desmodromic actuation:
I got pretty good at shifting mine but still didnt care for it.
12-05-17, 07:55 PM
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Simply because it is fun to try something different. Old, new, it's all good.
As long as you don't buy into the bike making you "better".
As long as you don't buy into the bike making you "better".
12-05-17, 09:26 PM
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Yeah, what was it with those yahoos bitd making Swiss cheese out of those parts? It's not like those parts started off looking any good, but damn, once the mad drillers got going all bets were off!
And don't even get me started on those ass-hatchet, suspended leather "saddles". Luddite Grails, those, amiright?
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And don't even get me started on those ass-hatchet, suspended leather "saddles". Luddite Grails, those, amiright?
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12-05-17, 09:51 PM
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I disagree with the whole premise. I just finished building up an old X4 with Campy C Record. I'm having a blast riding the bike. The Deltas work great, one finger from the drops, two from the hoods. I'm struck by how quiet the drive train is. I even went overboard and picked up a synchro II. It shifts flawlessly. I don't worry about dropping the chain at either end in the front.
In my opinion the advantage of newer stuff is convenience, period.
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12-05-17, 10:15 PM
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12-06-17, 06:51 AM
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I wonder if Jeff's cat isn't getting enough attention and took over his keyboard to get back at him
12-06-17, 04:25 PM
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Yes send me all those crappy old out of date bikes and I will dispose of them for you.
Stopped at a nearby LBS to see if they had any take off parts. Guy asked me the age of my bike. I told him it was a 1987 model. He informed me any bike over five years old is obsolete and not worth repairing... guy was about my age (60+).
Stopped at a nearby LBS to see if they had any take off parts. Guy asked me the age of my bike. I told him it was a 1987 model. He informed me any bike over five years old is obsolete and not worth repairing... guy was about my age (60+).
12-06-17, 07:52 PM
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12-06-17, 08:23 PM
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See post #8. Your bike is just repeating what @-holiday76 's old girlfriend had already said...
"I was starting to think I didn't have it in me anymore."
(That's what she said.)
"My girlfriend wanted to know what's got into me."
(That's what she said.)
Now whenever I mount my Ironman it smarts off at me.
"Are you on yet? Because I can't tell. Oh, you are? Try pedaling. Oh, you are? I couldn't tell."
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Vintage steel and a modern drivetrain is the best of all worlds.
Others may disagree.
They’re right too.
Others may disagree.
They’re right too.
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02-11-21, 01:27 PM
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Old bike parts can be sucky because they have 40 years of wear on them.
And in some cases "they don't make them like they used to", and that's a good thing. E.g. Cars, certain stems, many lugged carbon fibre bikes.
02-11-21, 01:39 PM
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The "triple" part of this is central to why I'm rarely happy with vintage drivetrains (until Campy 10-speed is acknowledged as vintage), Yeah, I know there are some vintage triples, but the newer stuff works better. Pins and ramps on a crank make a big difference.
The "dual-pivot" part captures why I'm rarely happy with vintage brake systems. They weren't designed for riding on the hoods, which is where I'm comfortable, and I just don't like having to use a lot of hand pressure.
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I'm old and fairly worn out, but I'm not sucky. Yet.
BTW, I like old parts on old bikes. I also like new parts on new bikes. I guess that I just like bikes. Is that a sucky idea?
BTW, I like old parts on old bikes. I also like new parts on new bikes. I guess that I just like bikes. Is that a sucky idea?
02-11-21, 02:32 PM
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I also agree that old frames and new or newish components make a good combination. I've modernized most of my old bikes. I was glad to hear the esteemed frame builder Dave Moulton confirm this in an interview on The Outspoken Cyclist.
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Well at least in my case the new bike isn't going to remind me of when I was young, handsome and awesome! 
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I guess put in descending order, Moron, Imbecile, and Idiot, are bad words too.
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I disagree with the whole premise. I just finished building up an old X4 with Campy C Record. I'm having a blast riding the bike. The Deltas work great, one finger from the drops, two from the hoods. I'm struck by how quiet the drive train is. I even went overboard and picked up a synchro II. It shifts flawlessly. I don't worry about dropping the chain at either end in the front.
In my opinion the advantage of newer stuff is convenience, period.
In my opinion the advantage of newer stuff is convenience, period.
What alternate C&V dimension might you be writing your posts from??........
BTW,.....FANTASTICALLY GORGEOUS BIANCHI YOU HAVE THERE!!
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02-11-21, 08:04 PM
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I know this is a three year old post, but I just have to give kudos to how well this captures my philosophy on vintage bikes.
The "triple" part of this is central to why I'm rarely happy with vintage drivetrains (until Campy 10-speed is acknowledged as vintage), Yeah, I know there are some vintage triples, but the newer stuff works better. Pins and ramps on a crank make a big difference.
The "dual-pivot" part captures why I'm rarely happy with vintage brake systems. They weren't designed for riding on the hoods, which is where I'm comfortable, and I just don't like having to use a lot of hand pressure.
The "triple" part of this is central to why I'm rarely happy with vintage drivetrains (until Campy 10-speed is acknowledged as vintage), Yeah, I know there are some vintage triples, but the newer stuff works better. Pins and ramps on a crank make a big difference.
The "dual-pivot" part captures why I'm rarely happy with vintage brake systems. They weren't designed for riding on the hoods, which is where I'm comfortable, and I just don't like having to use a lot of hand pressure.
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02-11-21, 09:49 PM
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you don’t ask too many questions on the winning side.
I started winning races when I had a full Canpagnolo bicycle