Giro Criterium Road Bike with Campagnolo parts?
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Giro Criterium Road Bike with Campagnolo parts?
Hi, I recently found this bike on Craigslist, here's the listing description and I was wondering how much it's worth. The seller is asking $400:
Vintage 1970's GIRO 52cm Complete
Road Bike / Dura Ace / Campagnolo Equipped
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Listing includes one 1970's GIRO Criterium 52cm Complete 10-Speed Road Bicycle.
This GIRO frame is very high quality Columbus tubing, and appears to be early 1970's.
Equipped with all Vintage era correct Dura Ace and Campagnolo components as shown.
The frame and forks have their original off-white / ivory factory paint and decals. The frame has been touched up in a few minor spots by the original owner (see attached photos)
We consider it as a very clean overall one owner survivor. The bicycle was purchased in Italy and brought back to the US sometime during the 1970's.
We put the bike on our stand and put it through all of the gears. Both Front and Rear derailleurs shift smoothly, both front and rear brakes both stop well as well.
The components included are as follows:
Brakes: Dura Ace
Bars: Cinelli
Stem: Benottora Ace
Seat: Concour
Seat post: Dura ace
Hubs: High Flange Campagnolo (5-spd rear)
Front Derailleur: Campagnolo
Measurements: Top Tube: Center to Center 21" or 53cm
Seat Mast: Center to Center 21" or 53cm
Please review all attached photos; and be sure to ask any questions.
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Measurements: Top Tube: Center to Center 21" or 53cmSeat Mast: Center to Center 21" or 53cmPlease review all attached photos; and be sure to ask any questions.
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Crane
(With the Crane, Shimano pulled out all the stops in an attempt to make a truly world-class derailleur. It was an all aluminium design with a dropped parallelogram - a world first. The finish was excellent with that anodised ‘glow’ that Campagnolo had perfected. The chromed parts were bright and polished. The pulleys had a two part bushing system so that bronze rotated on bronze. Even the springs seemed to have less of a tendency to lose their tension. All very classy)
SO, I was wondering what this bike is worth, I have also attached some pictures.
THANKS!!! THIS IS MY FIRST POST!!!
Vintage 1970's GIRO 52cm Complete
Road Bike / Dura Ace / Campagnolo Equipped
______________________________________________________________________
Details:
Listing includes one 1970's GIRO Criterium 52cm Complete 10-Speed Road Bicycle.
This GIRO frame is very high quality Columbus tubing, and appears to be early 1970's.
Equipped with all Vintage era correct Dura Ace and Campagnolo components as shown.
The frame and forks have their original off-white / ivory factory paint and decals. The frame has been touched up in a few minor spots by the original owner (see attached photos)
We consider it as a very clean overall one owner survivor. The bicycle was purchased in Italy and brought back to the US sometime during the 1970's.
We put the bike on our stand and put it through all of the gears. Both Front and Rear derailleurs shift smoothly, both front and rear brakes both stop well as well.
The components included are as follows:
Brakes: Dura Ace
Bars: Cinelli
Stem: Benottora Ace
Seat: Concour
Seat post: Dura ace
Hubs: High Flange Campagnolo (5-spd rear)
Front Derailleur: Campagnolo
Measurements: Top Tube: Center to Center 21" or 53cm
Seat Mast: Center to Center 21" or 53cm
Please review all attached photos; and be sure to ask any questions.
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Measurements: Top Tube: Center to Center 21" or 53cmSeat Mast: Center to Center 21" or 53cmPlease review all attached photos; and be sure to ask any questions.
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Crane
(With the Crane, Shimano pulled out all the stops in an attempt to make a truly world-class derailleur. It was an all aluminium design with a dropped parallelogram - a world first. The finish was excellent with that anodised ‘glow’ that Campagnolo had perfected. The chromed parts were bright and polished. The pulleys had a two part bushing system so that bronze rotated on bronze. Even the springs seemed to have less of a tendency to lose their tension. All very classy)
SO, I was wondering what this bike is worth, I have also attached some pictures.
THANKS!!! THIS IS MY FIRST POST!!!
Last edited by ballinwang; 02-12-18 at 03:13 PM.
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Nice looking bike. Is there a question?
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The seller had that one on Ebay for $349.95 plus shipping of $75, then pulled the listing and relisted for $399.95 with free shipping. If you're in that vicinity, you could easily negotiate the $399.95 price down by the $75 shipping cost. At $325, I think it's a fair price. It looks to be a very nice classic example, tastefully done, made with good tubing, and with some nice components.
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The bike is a bit overpriced at $400, considering it is not even a well known brand and in need of a good cleaning and an overhaul. There is also a mishmash of parts on it that pulls the value of the whole bike down a bit. I would think $325 max. would be more realistic for that bike. There's also enough wear on the graphics to consider asking for a lower price.
A bike with lots Italian flag graphics on it with Shimano DA components?? Now if it had a full Campagnolo Nouvo Record Gruppo on it, it will be a different story.... Then maybe I'd pay 400 and up if the bike had that.
A bike with lots Italian flag graphics on it with Shimano DA components?? Now if it had a full Campagnolo Nouvo Record Gruppo on it, it will be a different story.... Then maybe I'd pay 400 and up if the bike had that.
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Welcome to the forums. It's no earlier than very late 1970s, as it has the Portacatena dropouts which were introduced for the 1978 model year. I doubt it goes very far into the early 1980s, if at all, based on the exposed brake mounting nuts. The clamp style shift levers look out of place for the era, level and other features. . The frame itself appears to have very nice workmanship.
It may not even be Italian. There was a Canadian builder named Larry Routely who produced frames under the Giro brand. His decals were more understated and some features differ but I've also never seen an early sample of his work.
It's very much a frankenbike. The Crane derailleur pre-dates the frame. Beside the hubs being a mix of hi and lo flange, the front has the straight, pre-1978 lever, while the rear has the 1978+ curved lever. The brakes are period correct Dura-Ace EX but the headset, while also period correct, is lower level 600EX. While it doesn't have the panache of Camapagnolo (Nuovo) Record, there is nothing wrong with Dura-Ace of this era and it is even superior in some aspects.
Regarding the price, I'd place it around $300.The mixed components definitely deducts from the value, as does the lower brand recognition factor and gaudy decals. I've also compensated for changing the outer chainring, which looks atypically large.
It may not even be Italian. There was a Canadian builder named Larry Routely who produced frames under the Giro brand. His decals were more understated and some features differ but I've also never seen an early sample of his work.
It's very much a frankenbike. The Crane derailleur pre-dates the frame. Beside the hubs being a mix of hi and lo flange, the front has the straight, pre-1978 lever, while the rear has the 1978+ curved lever. The brakes are period correct Dura-Ace EX but the headset, while also period correct, is lower level 600EX. While it doesn't have the panache of Camapagnolo (Nuovo) Record, there is nothing wrong with Dura-Ace of this era and it is even superior in some aspects.
Regarding the price, I'd place it around $300.The mixed components definitely deducts from the value, as does the lower brand recognition factor and gaudy decals. I've also compensated for changing the outer chainring, which looks atypically large.
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Needs a complete refurbish job. Putting it up on the stand and shifting gears is not nearly enough. If you can do the refurbish yourself, OK deal. If not, you are going to have to pay $100 to $150 to get it up and running.
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Parts alone are probably worth $400 - Campy steel pedals are worth a bunch. Looks like a buy to me. The low/high flange hub combo was a "thing" back in the day. Whether its intentional here I dont know.
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The price is high given that this is not a well known bike and the mix of parts but the bike looks clean and nicely put together. I agree with big chainring that this is not a crazy price but I know I'd likely pass at this price and think about buying at $325.
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