HerrKaLeun

100 rpm put you at over 50 kmh, and you are frequently spinning out? Like steep downhill streets, or flats? Are you a pro-racer or something? I'm just wondering since i neer spin out (never use the 11T on flats, only downhill)
Since you have 42T, i assume you have the SLR 1 with 28/42T chainrings. the two chainrings have ramps designed to work together (therefore the 2:3 ratio) to improve shifting. If you add a larger chainring, the jump to the 28 may be too large to be smooth. Are you planning on replacing both?

Sounds like you want to go for a road gearing more than hybrid gearing. You may get problems on hills when going to 11-28 (from 11-36). especially if you also increase the smaller chainring. Maybe consider going to 11-speed in rear to still have a larger "bailout" large cog. I assume you want the tighter spacing.

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Delwis

Awesome calculator HerrKaLeun. Thanks for posting!

hokiefyd 

Can you post a picture? Perhaps non-Toughroad owner might look at it and know why it's there.

Pacoloco1966

hi there...how much "better" is the SLR1 for 2017 or even the 2018 SLR2? I have an option to buy either one for about the same price in Canada...
2017 Giant toughroad SLR1 vs 2018 Giant toughroad SLR2
which one is a better bike? for the same price now...smoother ride? components etc...I read the specs but I don't know enough to see the difference...!
I confess I like the colour of the 2018 SLR2 better-black with red lines. Also, I'm thinking I may/would replace the tires for Schwalbe Allmotion or marathon supreme...
help pls! I used to have a Giant Seek 2013 but is time to move on! I posted this in another thread too...pls don't be harsh! I just need help!
thanks
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ColonelSanders

The SLR 1 has better gears, brakes and crankset.

MRT2

Lol. In my world, a 2013 model is barely broken in. Maybe I am missing something, but the Toughroad looks like a newer version of the Seek line.

Pacoloco1966

We’re spoiled here!!
I also feel some similarities with the Seek models. I do mostly commuting but i wonder how much more comfortable fster/slower the ride is with the toughroad.
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MRT2

I imagine you would notice a bigger difference changing tires on your old bike.

HerrKaLeun

My freehub developed play (cassette cog moves laterally by about 1mm). I took the cassette off and can wiggle it up/down (and it is not a loose cone issue). Bike only has 2,000 km plus what it did at LBS (it was a demo bike, but doubt it rode significant miles as it is still on 1st chain with 0.25% elongation).

Did anyone have early freehub problems? I don't recall if it always had play or not, shifting doesn't seem to be affected yet. My other two bikes don't have that play at all.

I'll take the wheel to LBS next week to see if it is covered under warranty (bought spring 2017). the warranty of course says "manufacturing defects", they could claim this is wear and when I received it it wasn't defect, hence not a manufacturing defect. does anyone have experience with warranty claims on items like freehubs (that have a wear dependent life)?

Looks like freehubs are $30, so wouldn't be too huge of a deal to buy one (minus the hassle). does anyone know if there is a xD driver version?

Pacoloco1966

Hi there...I decided to save some money and get the 2017 ToughRoad SLR2-I added a few accessories and I have been riding it for a few days (before snow returns to my city...still Winter!)...I like it a lot...!Mine came with Maxxis tires and I will keep them on for now, but may change them for Marathon Plus or Big Apple 50mm or wider in June.
Much lighter than my older Seek and definitely feels a bit speedy. I will wait for Spring to ride it a lot more.

thanks for the help. I still haven't found a kickstand that works with this bike. I saw the link you published about the Rose kickstand but nothing like that here. well...maybe. I found this link locally. Will bring my bike and see if the bike mechanics can fit it in.
https://www.mec.ca/en/product/5024-9...rsal-Kickstand

thanks!
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HerrKaLeun

Problem solved, the freehub was not tight enough (the mechanic said it was a half turn it needed). Now I'm not sure if it came thea tay or loosened over time. but i have a hard time imagining it getting loose over time.
Assuming this was an assembly issue, i doubt it is toughroad-specific. But better check your freehubs.

ColonelSanders

That kickstand looks pretty much identical and will work on a Toughroad, just make sure you don't go crazy with how tight you screw it in.

prj71

Seek doesn't have carbon fork.

MRT2

As I said, a newer version of the Seek.

Carl J

Question. I'm switching my ToughRoad to a 1x11. Will the stock wheel support an 11 speed cassette? Or will I need a new rear wheel?

travbikeman

Check out the Australian Giant web site. The ToughRoad SLR 0 uses a different hub than the other ToughRoad SLR's.

I'm betting your SLR 2 is stuck with a maximum of 10speeds.

Interesting that Giant only gives 28 spokes on the ToughRoad SLR 0. I would expect 32 spokes to really handle the abuse people would give it.

Carl J

Thanks. I'm hoping I can get away with not having to purchase new wheels, as this is an unexpected upgrade (my cassettes are severely rusted after a couple of winter rides). Looking at getting the Bontrager Race X Lite wheel set (for $500CAD, regular $1300). Those look to be 28 spoke and not 32.

ColonelSanders

The Toughroad SLR 0 sports an 11 speed SRAM cassette which is not compatible with existing Shimano 9/10 speed hubs, so as long as Carl J sticks with a Shimano 11 speed mountain bike cassette, he should be fine with the hub that comes on the Toughroad SLR 1 or 2.

Carl J

Thanks ColonelSanders I did pick up those Bontrager wheels yesterday, but made sure first that if I don't need them that the LBS will take them back. Great deal on the wheels, and they're supposedly pretty good too, but, would rather not pay the extra money if I don't have to.

HerrKaLeun

so wait, you guys are saying the 11-speed cassette would work with the SLR 1/2 hubs? this is what i thought and hoped, but if possible please try and let us know.

badger1

Yes. Shimano mtb and road are different in that respect. Any Shimano/compatible mtb hub that takes Shimano 9/10spd will accept an 11spd Shimano/compatible mtb cassette. Example: I have a pair of older (circa 2007) Shimano XT disc wheels, currently with 9spd cassette. I could go straight to current Shimano 11spd if I wanted to. There are no spacing or chainline issues.

On road hubs that is not true. Shimano/SRAM 11spd cassettes will not work with older generation Shimano/compatible 8/9/10spd road hubs.

HerrKaLeun

what you say is exactly what I thought the way it is. I just got a bit confused by some of these posts as they sounded (to me) only the 11-speed hub can take 11-speed.
(i only have hybrid and fatbike and never will have road bike group stuff... so these bodies are confusing me all the time with their statements :-)

Carl J

This is what confused me. I knew (or was sure that I knew) that for road bikes, you'd need an 11 speed compatible wheel/hub. But when it came to MTBs, I've read mixed things. Even asked one of the guys at the LBS before I bought the new wheels, if this was the case with MTB/my bike, and he said he wasn't sure (he'd have to see my current wheel).

I'm sure that the new wheels are a lot better than what came with the bike, just don't think that the difference would be worth the cost (for this bike and the riding I do on it).

Just waiting for all of my parts to come in and will be taking it to the shop sometime this week. Will post whether or not I had to change them.

Thanks everyone, for the help

travbikeman

Heh, that confused me too. Didn't realize that you could put 11 speed shimano on some of the hubs. Also didn't realize that SRAM wasn't compatible with Shimano hubs. Thanks for the info today everyone!

Love it when I learn something new!

badger1

It is confusing! Sticking with mtb, here's a summary:

1. Any hub that will accept 9 or 10spd Shimano cassette will accept an 11spd Shimano cassette, or similar. There is also one (1) SRAM 11 spd cassette that I know of that will fit: PG 1130. Putting it another way, 11spd cassettes with 11-tooth small cogs. And unlike with the road hubs, there are no spacing issues.

2. The other SRAM 11 and 12spd cassettes require the dedicated SRAM XD driver body on the rear hub. I think this is because of that 10-tooth small cog on these cassettes. Whatever the reason, they do require that driver body (or presumably a clone thereof).