caloso

Yeah, that's a good way of putting it. I will notice that early in the season (or if my fitness has fallen off midseason) my back will get really tight and sore if I am going too deep too long.

livedarklions

Different muscles, but that definitely happens to me in the early season as I transition from the gym to the bike. Now having a bit of that as I transition back into the gym--my arms especially as they definitely get neglected during bike season.

smashndash

I read the post. I think the issue you ran into with read it was that you gave a looot of information that wasn’t particularly relevant. There also wasn’t a precise question or topic of discussion. Wordy posts with no clear point are an easy way to get targeted on internet forums.

I think your post got interpreted as “I did this ride that was so hard/fast and barely got sore!”. I believe what you meant to ask was “I went really hard but wasn’t sore after. Was this not as good of a workout as I believed it to be?”

Take the following with a grain of salt because I’m not formally qualified to be talking about any of this:

I think there’s a difference between soreness and fatigue. If you get into lifting, and start piling on heavy weights day 1, you will experience serious soreness. You could end up practically bed ridden. This is due to micro-damage to your muscles/tendons. However, as you start to lift regularly, even lifting very heavy weights will barely cause any soreness.

So back to biking. Biking is a largely aerobic activity. It doesn’t challenge your leg muscles’ structure very much. Climbing stairs or running are probably an order of magnitude harder. You should not expect to be sore after a bike ride, unless you do several sharp neuromuscular efforts. Ie the hardest you can possibly go for under a minute - a sprint, even. This can happen in a spirited group ride but is extremely uncommon for people to do alone unless they are training to race.

Your legs burning up are a sign of fatigue. You’re out of glycogen and are pooling up lactic acid. This doesn’t cause soreness afterwards. It just makes your legs feel empty and weak.

Your definition of a “good workout” will change depending on your goals. The fact that you were fatigued but not breathing hard implies that you just need to develop some aerobic endurance (separate from “top end” aerobic capacity). Some call it fat adaptation or base fitness. Essentially, you want your muscles to be able to work without burning up all your glycogen immediately.

Ironically, the best way to do this is to do long, easy rides. Some even do these rides fasted in order to *start* the ride with no glycogen in their muscles, thus forcing their muscles to use fat for energy.

Someone can correct me if my “diagnosis” is wrong.

RMoudatir

I am not sure if I used "full gas" in the right context but it was almost 10 pm at a relative's place. I wanted to get home quickly and it was getting cold when I just had a jersey on so I opted to pedal harder and keep warm than to shiver all the way through which is not fun at all. I was just going as hard as I can without burning myself out but my legs really started crying at mile 10, all I could think of was getting home, my legs were becoming almost numb yet burned like hell. Wasn't a pleasant ride but it felt great coming home to earning a few PRs that I had not touched since 2016.

Skipjacks

Keep in mind that the guys on the internet who can easily outperform your 15 mph pacing for 1:20 are also NASA physicists, self made billionaires, and are dating the entire Victoria's Secret model crew at the same time.

It's easy to be better than everyone else on the internet....when you don't have to back up and of your bull++++

caloso

So your next ride should be a recovery ride. Just an easy spin. You can't go all out every ride.

Vintage Schwinn

R. Moudatir, DON'T LET IT GET YOU DOWN. Unfortunately it seems, among a young and very immature, nearly 100% male segment of cycling community that regards itself as the "Serious Cyclists", they are just bullies for whatever reasons, insecurities and problems in their daily lives, that to feel like special people, they have to mock, ridicule, harass, intimidate, and ostracize those bicycle riders that are Not like them. They are insecure and afraid of including all into the membership of the bicycle riding community because they somehow feel threatened that having "Novices" or "Non-Performers" for lack of better word choices, will somehow ruin bicycling as they know it. You see these dumb ahzzz-es in their replies on various forums and threads. Instead of offering encouragement and positive advice, they essentially wish to run of the riff-raff that don't belong here anyway, as they feel in their own pea-brain, numbskull minds that they are the only folks that really matter.
You see it all the time, where they delight at bullying and negativity and ridicule towards those New to the community who may only be casual riders or folks that ride basic bicycles. You see these turds that reply to folks' subject topics on their fun, joy and challenging struggles in whatever type of riding that they do. You see these such turds that ridicule some of these folks for riding and owning a ( BSO ) , Bicycle-Shaped-Object, as in their warped minds, it does not qualify as a bicycle.
These young male idiots have a lot to learn about life. You just have to look at them in the proper context. They are insecure losers who are just being bullies because it gives them a feeling of superiority. Most of them will mature and grow-out of this stage. Until then, just remember that there likely will always be pricks such as these on cycling forums, and just don't give them the satisfaction of ruining your day, because they are just turds anyway so just Flush Em !!

wolfchild

It sounds like OP is suffering from low self-esteem and lack of confidence. If you can't put up with a little bit of negative talk on internet forums how are you going to deal with negativity in real world ??...HTFU

Happy Feet

I always get a kick out of this type of response. Don't you think that by calling people: dumb ahzzz-es, pea-brain, numbskull minds, turds, idiots insecure losers, pricks etc... you become one of those bullies who, for whatever reasons, insecurities and problems in their daily lives, feel like special people who mock, ridicule, harass, intimidate, and ostracize?

aplcr0331

Don’t let a few dicks get you down. The ****** thread ain’t that bad and more than a few people gave some very useful advice.

Keep going, it’ll make you mentally and physically tougher.

shelbyfv

Wow! Someone must have dissed your Wally-bike, so defensive.

cb400bill

Bike Forums does not allow threads about other forums.

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