Disc brakes are now the default on road bikes and no one cares
02-25-20, 01:39 PM
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02-25-20, 01:41 PM
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That's fine. Life's all about trade-offs and we don't all prefer the same things. Some people do care about an extra pound of weight. They now have to buy bare frames and build their rim brake bike themselves because the major manufacturers don't sell them anymore.
02-25-20, 01:51 PM
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02-25-20, 02:04 PM
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Aesthetics are purely personal, but discs with integrated hoses look waaaaay better than rim brakes, imo. The discs/calipers become part of the system and look like they belong there, instead of rim brakes looking like they were an afterthought, just bolted on after the bike was designed.
02-25-20, 02:07 PM
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02-25-20, 02:09 PM
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02-25-20, 02:14 PM
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No one said the difference is 200g, just that it can be about 200g, e.g. my road bike has a 244g disc brake penalty.
02-25-20, 02:17 PM
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Apparently you've never tried disc brakes.
Those Campy C-Record are very nice, but they don't brake as well as modern versions.
02-25-20, 02:25 PM
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02-25-20, 02:44 PM
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My point is that the choice has been taken away for everyone who isn't interested in building their own bike. I personally don't care that much about a pound of weight either, but I have ridden thousands of miles on a bike with disk brakes and don't think the benefit of disk brakes is worth the extra weight or cost vs. my rim brake bikes.
02-25-20, 02:56 PM
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02-25-20, 03:02 PM
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My point is that the choice has been taken away for everyone who isn't interested in building their own bike. I personally don't care that much about a pound of weight either, but I have ridden thousands of miles on a bike with disk brakes and don't think the benefit of disk brakes is worth the extra weight or cost vs. my rim brake bikes.
02-25-20, 03:11 PM
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My point is that the choice has been taken away for everyone who isn't interested in building their own bike. I personally don't care that much about a pound of weight either, but I have ridden thousands of miles on a bike with disk brakes and don't think the benefit of disk brakes is worth the extra weight or cost vs. my rim brake bikes.
At least you have a really cool classic/vintage 2019 bike.
I remember the good old days...
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02-25-20, 03:18 PM
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02-25-20, 03:52 PM
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No offense taken. Yeah, they suck, but they came with the groupset. I also had to re torque the inner chain ring 3 times to get rid of a creaking sound, probably due to the carbon spacers between the chainrings. I'm looking forward to swap the crankset for an aluminum set as soon as a 48/32 combination is available for 12 speeds.
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02-25-20, 04:08 PM
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You started out by stating Campy rim brakes outperform disc brakes in dry conditions. Now you're saying rim brakes outperform disc brakes if the bike with disc brakes has the wrong tires? I guess I can't argue with that.
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02-25-20, 04:15 PM
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I have a couple bikes with disk brakes, and they do have some advantages, like a much cleaner operation in the rain (no black aluminum oxide debris). But when they squeak they are annoying. They do brake better when wet, but only marginally. And in dry conditions, a modern Campy setup will brake better. On the other hand, in steep descents, rim brakes will heat up the air in the inner tube, increasing the possibility of a failure, but only if you are not rolling tubeless.
Those Campy C-Record are very nice, but they don't brake as well as modern versions.
Those Campy C-Record are very nice, but they don't brake as well as modern versions.
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02-25-20, 04:29 PM
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02-25-20, 04:52 PM
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