For the love of English 3 speeds...
04-08-20, 09:22 AM
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should remain as original as possible
As found
These Club bikes are really quite interesting and were a step above the regular 3 speeds of the day.
The EA1 rims suggest yours was originally a Club.
04-08-20, 11:50 AM
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I wouldn't worry about it so much- as you found it was not original. The Humber Sports is a gas-pipe frame; came stock with North Road bend handlebars and a Brooks leather saddle. Someone added the dropped bars and seat.
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Yup!
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04-09-20, 10:50 AM
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I serviced my first Sturmey Archer ASC 3 speed Fixed gear hub today. And I also found myself a AW 3 speed dated 1962. I had posted awhile ago about how I never see many with a 62 date. I had to buy 5 other hubs that came with it but I dont mind, you can never have enough spares ...Right?
The ASC is dated 50-5 .
ASC
ASC
1962 AW
The ASC is dated 50-5 .
ASC
ASC
1962 AW
There was a recession in the early 60's and perhaps Raleigh had a big stockpile of hubs they needed
to get through....
Yes, always good to have spares....
You could spend days and $$ trying to track down one little pawl spring to
finish a project.
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on making your own springs from guitar strings.....
I tried making one out of a staple years ago...
Bad idea as it rusted very quickly and messed things up.
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I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. It is the 23" size, but I'm 6'2" or 6'3"ish and mostly legs. The seatpost is too short, and the handlebar stem is way too short. I can't ride it anymore unless I can find a longer post and a longer stem. I'd really like to enjoy this bike and put it in the regular ride and (one day...) commute rotation without sore knees. Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
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While I'm sure I could make that happen, I think I'm too neurotic to have a slight imbalance in spring pressure between the pawls :-P
04-10-20, 01:50 AM
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I have used the first one to test ride a 57cm frame where I usually need 63cm+.
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I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. It is the 23" size, but I'm 6'2" or 6'3"ish and mostly legs. The seatpost is too short, and the handlebar stem is way too short. I can't ride it anymore unless I can find a longer post and a longer stem. I'd really like to enjoy this bike and put it in the regular ride and (one day...) commute rotation without sore knees. Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
If these fit a 25.4mm seatpost you could look for this Kalloy 400mm x 25.4mm seatpost or this stainless steel 350mm x 25.4 candle type.
I have used the first one to test ride a 57cm frame where I usually need 63cm+.
I have used the first one to test ride a 57cm frame where I usually need 63cm+.
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I've come to terms with the fact that the 1950 Superbe is too small for me. It is the 23" size, but I'm 6'2" or 6'3"ish and mostly legs. The seatpost is too short, and the handlebar stem is way too short. I can't ride it anymore unless I can find a longer post and a longer stem. I'd really like to enjoy this bike and put it in the regular ride and (one day...) commute rotation without sore knees. Anybody got the scoop on longer stem / seatposts that fit these bikes?
Thanks all.
Thanks all.
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This is why you should never use the name "Clint" in a comic book......
This is why you should never use the name "Clint" in a comic book......
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Ged117,
If you have a Metal Superstore around, they can fix you up with a longer post.
Here's something I wrote up when I did the longer seatpost for my Vilano Urbana (See thread for detail) Common seat post sizes
27.2 mm = 1.07inch = 1 1/16
28.6 mm = 1.125984 = 1 1/8
30.4 mm = 1.19685 = 1 13/64
31.8 mm = 1.252 = 1 1/4
33.9 mm = 1.335inch = 1 21/64 (close to 1 5/16)
Seat posts I have
Hummer 27.2
Raleigh 20 28.6 15inch - 380
Nano 29.2
Downtube 30.4 18inch - 450
Urbana 31.8 21inch – 550 - Shimmed
Urbana 33.9 shimmed to 31.8
Available pipe
I.D. (inside diameter)
1.250 AL 6061 – SCH 40 PIPE
Stainless Steel 316/316L Pipe
0.75″ NOMINAL (1.05″ OD X 0.113″ WALL X 0.82″ ID)
Hot rolled steel
1.250 ST STEEL SCH 80 PIPE
Available Tube
1.250 X 0.125 (SEAMLESS) AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND
1.500 X 0.125 AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND **** 1.25 i.d ? sleeve for 31.8????
1.500 X 0.125 (SEAMLESS) AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND
1.500 X 0.125 AL 6063T5 TUBE ROUND
Common shim sizes
Shim sizes
33.9 - 27.2
33.9 - 31.8
Miscellaneous lengths
600 = 24inch
640 = 25 ThorUSA LOOONG standard $38
Raleigh Tube 28.6(1.126, 1-1/8) fits inside Urbana Tube 31.8(1.252, 1-1/4), that means the Urbana tube wall is 1/16, (.06) inch thick or 16 gauge
If you have a Metal Superstore around, they can fix you up with a longer post.
Here's something I wrote up when I did the longer seatpost for my Vilano Urbana (See thread for detail) Common seat post sizes
27.2 mm = 1.07inch = 1 1/16
28.6 mm = 1.125984 = 1 1/8
30.4 mm = 1.19685 = 1 13/64
31.8 mm = 1.252 = 1 1/4
33.9 mm = 1.335inch = 1 21/64 (close to 1 5/16)
Seat posts I have
Hummer 27.2
Raleigh 20 28.6 15inch - 380
Nano 29.2
Downtube 30.4 18inch - 450
Urbana 31.8 21inch – 550 - Shimmed
Urbana 33.9 shimmed to 31.8
Available pipe
I.D. (inside diameter)
1.250 AL 6061 – SCH 40 PIPE
Stainless Steel 316/316L Pipe
0.75″ NOMINAL (1.05″ OD X 0.113″ WALL X 0.82″ ID)
Hot rolled steel
1.250 ST STEEL SCH 80 PIPE
Available Tube
1.250 X 0.125 (SEAMLESS) AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND
1.500 X 0.125 AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND **** 1.25 i.d ? sleeve for 31.8????
1.500 X 0.125 (SEAMLESS) AL 6061T6 TUBE ROUND
1.500 X 0.125 AL 6063T5 TUBE ROUND
Common shim sizes
Shim sizes
33.9 - 27.2
33.9 - 31.8
Miscellaneous lengths
600 = 24inch
640 = 25 ThorUSA LOOONG standard $38
Raleigh Tube 28.6(1.126, 1-1/8) fits inside Urbana Tube 31.8(1.252, 1-1/4), that means the Urbana tube wall is 1/16, (.06) inch thick or 16 gauge
04-11-20, 02:47 PM
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Got this 1968 S5 5 speed build finished up today. I do still need to make one more spacer for the second chain guard mount, but other than that it is finished, and I want to make a "stop" for the front of the rack so things clamped in the rack don't get pushed forward into the back of the seat post.
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^ Nice! You got a better fender line with those tires than Raleigh usually did!
04-11-20, 03:00 PM
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Yea, the radius of the fenders is a bit smaller than it should be IMO, especially the front.
I should probably take a link out of the chain and add a half link, that will put the rear wheel 1/4" further forward, right near the front of the dropouts, but tolerable, and it will make the fender line better.
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Got this 1968 S5 5 speed build finished up today. I do still need to make one more spacer for the second chain guard mount, but other than that it is finished, and I want to make a "stop" for the front of the rack so things clamped in the rack don't get pushed forward into the back of the seat post.
Lets see your trigger set up.
04-11-20, 03:36 PM
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That will be primary use, but it is set up with some pretty nice tubeless gravel tires, and for a total juxtaposition of technology I did set them up tubeless! I do plan on smashing some longer gravel rides on this bike too :-)
Same trigger set up as a 1963 Hercules I have with an S5 and 700c wheels, here are some pics from this bike,
I even had a "speedy switch" were the name plate is upside down so its actually right side up when used under the bar!
Older thread with double trigger set-up, https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...er-set-up.html
Same trigger set up as a 1963 Hercules I have with an S5 and 700c wheels, here are some pics from this bike,
I even had a "speedy switch" were the name plate is upside down so its actually right side up when used under the bar!
Older thread with double trigger set-up, https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...er-set-up.html