CONTEST....Who Has The Longest Cable Housings?
#26
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: The Urban Shores Of Michigami
Posts: 1,749
Bikes: ........................................ .....Holdsworth "Special"..... .......Falcon "Special".......... .........Miyata 912........... ........................................
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 702 Post(s)
Liked 672 Times
in
420 Posts
#28
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: The Urban Shores Of Michigami
Posts: 1,749
Bikes: ........................................ .....Holdsworth "Special"..... .......Falcon "Special".......... .........Miyata 912........... ........................................
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 702 Post(s)
Liked 672 Times
in
420 Posts
#29
Strong Walker
As a matter of fact, many of the bikes in contemporary catalogues have quite long loops.
I think this was customary because the quill stems allowed height adjustment, so cables were set up that way in case the future owner of the bike wanted a high setup.
I think this was customary because the quill stems allowed height adjustment, so cables were set up that way in case the future owner of the bike wanted a high setup.
Last edited by martl; 04-18-20 at 11:23 PM.
#30
Steel is real
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Posts: 1,105
Bikes: 40 - accumulated over 40 years
Mentioned: 47 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 375 Post(s)
Liked 1,081 Times
in
303 Posts
I admit to having too long housings on my touring bike. There is a reason for it though. If needing to adjust cables while touring you can always shorten the housing and get some more cable to use. Looks ugly though. And I have never had to use that extra cable - yet.
#31
aka Tom Reingold
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: New York, NY, and High Falls, NY, USA
Posts: 40,502
Bikes: 1962 Rudge Sports, 1971 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Raleigh Pro Track, 1974 Raleigh International, 1975 Viscount Fixie, 1982 McLean, 1996 Lemond (Ti), 2002 Burley Zydeco tandem
Mentioned: 511 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7348 Post(s)
Liked 2,462 Times
in
1,433 Posts
@obrentharris, that's a really nice tandem. What is it, and have you posted about it?
__________________
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
Tom Reingold, tom@noglider.com
New York City and High Falls, NY
Blogs: The Experienced Cyclist; noglider's ride blog
“When man invented the bicycle he reached the peak of his attainments.” — Elizabeth West, US author
Please email me rather than PM'ing me. Thanks.
#32
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,526
Bikes: Indeed!
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1506 Post(s)
Liked 3,469 Times
in
1,131 Posts
@obrentharris, that's a really nice tandem. What is it, and have you posted about it?
It didn't fit me well so I ended up donating it to the Marin Museum of Bicycling and Mountain Bike Hall of Fame where it is now on display.
Brent
#33
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Cambridge UK
Posts: 852
Bikes: 1903 24 spd Sunbeam, 1927 Humber, 3 1930 Raleighs, 2 1940s Sunbeams, 2 1940s Raleighs, Rudge, 1950s Robin Hood, 1958 Claud Butler, 2 1973 Colnago Supers, Eddie Merckx, 2 1980 Holdsworth, EG Bates funny TT bike, another 6 or so 1990s bikes
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 331 Post(s)
Liked 332 Times
in
185 Posts
They were invented in Sweden as a safety device before the war. In the 1960s Volvo adopted the idea into their cars as a safety cable/belt in the event of a head-on collision. They thought the bicycle full harness (pictured above) was too much and went for the single cross-body belt/cable. Ford soon followed in the 1970s.
Nothing new under the sun.
Nothing new under the sun.
#34
Senior Member
I was trained in the fashion of the day to make the cable housings as short as possible. The method is as follows: do the rear brake first. Adjust housing length so the handlebars can be spun around both ways to the top tube without starting to pull out the housing. Add a small amount of extra for safety. I usually added an inch. Others stuck to the bleeding edge or even less. Match the front brake housing so the rise is about the same.
Catalog bikes were often set up really stupidly by people that didn't know what they were doing. I wouldn't go by catalog pics to get the idea of best practices from BITD. Race pictures are a better source.
I consider these a bit too long, but I still totally lose.
Eddy is the biggest loser.
Catalog bikes were often set up really stupidly by people that didn't know what they were doing. I wouldn't go by catalog pics to get the idea of best practices from BITD. Race pictures are a better source.
I consider these a bit too long, but I still totally lose.
Eddy is the biggest loser.
Likes For Salamandrine:
#35
señor miembro
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,621
Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3880 Post(s)
Liked 6,468 Times
in
3,200 Posts
I like 'em short and pro-looking too, but I start with the front. Easier to find that perfect, minimal, circular arc with the front and then match the rear. If I do it the other way, the front doesn't look right or it takes me too long to get 'em right.
Likes For SurferRosa:
#36
www.theheadbadge.com
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Southern Florida
Posts: 28,513
Bikes: https://www.theheadbadge.com
Mentioned: 124 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2422 Post(s)
Liked 4,390 Times
in
2,092 Posts
Likes For cudak888:
#37
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: The Urban Shores Of Michigami
Posts: 1,749
Bikes: ........................................ .....Holdsworth "Special"..... .......Falcon "Special".......... .........Miyata 912........... ........................................
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 702 Post(s)
Liked 672 Times
in
420 Posts
Not C&V and not a road bike, but...there's a lot flapping in the wind on this pint-sized beast, just to keep the folding bits happy.
The big irony is that the porteur bar I chose - which causes the straight-out cables in the first place - prevents it from folding properly
-Kurt
The big irony is that the porteur bar I chose - which causes the straight-out cables in the first place - prevents it from folding properly
-Kurt
Likes For branko_76:
#38
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Back in Lincoln Sq, Chicago...🙄
Posts: 1,609
Bikes: '84 Miyata 610 ‘91 Cannondale ST600,'83 Trek 720 ‘84 Trek 520, 620, ‘91 Miyata 1000LT, '79 Trek 514, '78 Trek 706, '73 Raleigh Int. frame.
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 685 Post(s)
Liked 370 Times
in
219 Posts
#42
1/2 as far in 2x the time
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Northern Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 1,746
Bikes: Yes, Please.
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 499 Post(s)
Liked 285 Times
in
222 Posts
I was trained in the fashion of the day to make the cable housings as short as possible. The method is as follows: do the rear brake first. Adjust housing length so the handlebars can be spun around both ways to the top tube without starting to pull out the housing. Add a small amount of extra for safety. I usually added an inch. Others stuck to the bleeding edge or even less. Match the front brake housing so the rise is about the same.
Catalog bikes were often set up really stupidly by people that didn't know what they were doing. I wouldn't go by catalog pics to get the idea of best practices from BITD. Race pictures are a better source.
I consider these a bit too long, but I still totally lose.
Eddy is the biggest loser.
Catalog bikes were often set up really stupidly by people that didn't know what they were doing. I wouldn't go by catalog pics to get the idea of best practices from BITD. Race pictures are a better source.
I consider these a bit too long, but I still totally lose.
Eddy is the biggest loser.
I'm with Eddy. Race bike handlebars don't need to spin as far as the top tube. When is that gonna happen during a race? You're supposed to be going forward, not sitting around, flipping your wheel back and forth. The rest of the time, your mechanic will hold the handlebars. Besides, that's how those pesky dents happen, the bars hitting your top tube, (or the front brake arm, banging the down tube).
If your front brake cable goes past vertical, and has to curve forward just to get back to the brake, your cable is too long. See Masi above. Hey, at least you know it's too long.
Chas, I never woulda thunk it... French élan can be carried too far. Or in this case, cut too long.
#43
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Point Reyes Station, California
Posts: 4,526
Bikes: Indeed!
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1506 Post(s)
Liked 3,469 Times
in
1,131 Posts
Likes For obrentharris:
Likes For garryg:
#45
Senior Member
I'm with Eddy. Race bike handlebars don't need to spin as far as the top tube. When is that gonna happen during a race? You're supposed to be going forward, not sitting around, flipping your wheel back and forth. The rest of the time, your mechanic will hold the handlebars. Besides, that's how those pesky dents happen, the bars hitting your top tube, (or the front brake arm, banging the down tube).
If your front brake cable goes past vertical, and has to curve forward just to get back to the brake, your cable is too long. See Masi above. Hey, at least you know it's too long.
If your front brake cable goes past vertical, and has to curve forward just to get back to the brake, your cable is too long. See Masi above. Hey, at least you know it's too long.
At least I know which brake lever the front brake caliper should be connected too.
I get your point about it not really being necessary or even a good idea at all for the bars to swing around fully. Just reciting the old school ROT. That said, I never really liked them super short like Eddy, cuz I tend to squirm around a lot and I like a little more room for my hands.
Last edited by Salamandrine; 05-12-20 at 06:37 PM.
#46
Señor Member
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Hardy, VA
Posts: 17,923
Bikes: Mostly English - predominantly Raleighs
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1491 Post(s)
Liked 1,090 Times
in
638 Posts
And to think I had delusions of being a contender.
__________________
In search of what to search for.
In search of what to search for.
#47
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: The Urban Shores Of Michigami
Posts: 1,749
Bikes: ........................................ .....Holdsworth "Special"..... .......Falcon "Special".......... .........Miyata 912........... ........................................
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 702 Post(s)
Liked 672 Times
in
420 Posts
#48
1/2 as far in 2x the time
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Northern Bergen County, NJ
Posts: 1,746
Bikes: Yes, Please.
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 499 Post(s)
Liked 285 Times
in
222 Posts
Yeah, yeah, I know. Actually it wasn't originally too long but I slammed the stem a couple cm when I was in college and didn't bother to clip my cable housings. That was the LeMond era. Also the ends are bit mangled and need to be clipped and trimmed. Better not lose those Campy ferrules.
At least I know which brake lever the front brake caliper should be connected too.
I get your point about it not really being necessary or even a good idea at all for the bars to swing around fully. Just reciting the old school ROT. That said, I never really liked them super short like Eddy, cuz I tend to squirm around a lot and I like a little more room for my hands.
At least I know which brake lever the front brake caliper should be connected too.
I get your point about it not really being necessary or even a good idea at all for the bars to swing around fully. Just reciting the old school ROT. That said, I never really liked them super short like Eddy, cuz I tend to squirm around a lot and I like a little more room for my hands.
#49
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,835
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 802 Post(s)
Liked 703 Times
in
376 Posts
You upright riders got nuthin' on a long-wheelbase recumbent.
This one's not vintage... it replaced one that was 20 years old and broke. I have another recumbent that's 30 years old, though.
This one's not vintage... it replaced one that was 20 years old and broke. I have another recumbent that's 30 years old, though.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Likes For Jeff Wills:
#50
Senior Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Fredericksburg, Va
Posts: 9,579
Bikes: '65 Frejus TDF, '73 Bottecchia Giro d'Italia, '83 Colnago Superissimo, '84 Trek 610, '84 Trek 760, '88 Pinarello Veneto, '88 De Rosa Pro, '89 Pinarello Montello, '94 Burley Duet, 97 Specialized RockHopper, 2010 Langster, Tern Link D8
Mentioned: 73 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1607 Post(s)
Liked 2,216 Times
in
1,103 Posts
__________________
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.
Bikes don't stand alone. They are two tired.