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Old 11-26-20, 07:51 AM
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I took my 60cm De Rosa out for a Sunday ride with some friends ...
Nice DeRosa. Check the date - might be mid - late 80's.

I have recently changed the bar wrap & saddle (totally changed the look), but the color is (imho) the most eye pleasing
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Austro Daimler Olympian, one of the 'wet' bikes.

Huret derailleurs/shifters, Nervar crankset, Love narrow bars ~37cm on this one.

And a fairly new addition, AD Vent Noir. Hodgepodge build, but looks OK and rides like a dream



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Originally Posted by Moisture
does that mongoose have 26" wheels? Is it a low end bike? How does it feel?
yes the Mongoose had 26” wheels. It was an older bike and I would consider it low end.
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Originally Posted by jwalther
62cm H1 Trek Emonda SLR

Hey, we're practially related.
60cm H1 Trek Emonda SLR 8.
I bought it sight unseen online because it was such a smoking deal. When I got it I was pretty bummed out that I would not be able to ride it because the seat mast cap would not raise high enough for me to be able to ride it. Eventually I found the same seat riser you see in the picture of the Domane below. Not the prettiest but it works like a charm, gave me the extra inch or so that I needed withouth raising the seat mast above Trek's recommended limit line. Love this bike.




60cm Trek Domane SLR 6. Same thing, had to add the seat riser. World of difference in comfort to the Emonda.
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Here is my Nishiki Competition '77, after a refreshing, new wheels, saddle, homemade leather bar wrap, brakes and levers.

Today I'm resetting the brakes and taking it out on the new test ride.

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Comfort food. SLX and easy gearing.
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60 cm 2002 Aegis Aro Svelte

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2019 61cm Specialized Allez Elite. Pic is at York Beach in Maine taken yesterday, Nov 27th. My wife was trying out her new e-bike, we ended up going 42 miles which was her longest ride ever. She was super proud. Great ride.


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60 cm 2002 Aegis Aro Svelte

Whats up with that funky seat tube?
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Originally Posted by Harhir
yes the Mongoose had 26” wheels. It was an older bike and I would consider it low end.
How does the big frame feel with 26" wheels?

I always liked Mongoose, theyre good bikes despite being considered "low end."
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Originally Posted by Moisture
Whats up with that funky seat tube?

Allegedly, it allows taller people to ride a smaller frame than they usually might if I correctly recall the manufacturer claims at the time it was being made and sold. I can say that it is an extremely comfortable ride and climbs well.
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Originally Posted by Berg417448
Allegedly, it allows taller people to ride a smaller frame than they usually might if I correctly recall the manufacturer claims at the time it was being made and sold. I can say that it is an extremely comfortable ride and climbs well.
It seems like its meant to.change the seat tube angle in two different places. Like having the best of.both worlds between a slack versus steep seat tube.
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Comfort food. SLX and easy gearing.
What's not to like here? Perfection.
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Originally Posted by Moisture
Whats up with that funky seat tube?
Shorter wheelbase and saddle is over the rear wheel.
Go google how those two things affect feel and performance.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Shorter wheelbase and saddle is over the rear wheel.
Go google how those two things affect feel and performance.
Interesting. I bet that works well. But wouldn't the rear end be a little fidgety around turns due to the shorter wheelbase?
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Bill Walton rides custom road bikes made by the acclaimed San Diego builder Bill Holland, with a seat tube height that Walton said is 70 centimeters

https://joebell.net/Two-Big-Bikes-for-BW.html

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Has anyone here converted flat bars to drop bar? Or vice versa? What feels best on a big frame? Or is that too dependent on personal taste?
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Milwaukee made by Waterford. One of the nicest most versatile bikes I've ever owned. Road, gravel, bring it on! 62 to the top. Bars have since been rolled downward to a more normal appearance. And I got rid of those awful Paul brakes and replaced with TRP standard reach which do the job much better w/o all the adjustment fuss.
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Milwaukee made by Waterford. One of the nicest most versatile bikes I've ever owned. Road, gravel, bring it on! 62 to the top. Bars have since been rolled downward to a more normal appearance. And I got rid of those awful Paul brakes and replaced with TRP standard reach which do the job much better w/o all the adjustment fuss.
I've heard great things about Waterford. Don't they make Gunnar frames or something? I might build up the Gunnar Hyper x with some flat bars In the near future.

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that's an awesome build. Do you use it for bike packing? Or commuting? What are all the pouches for?

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Originally Posted by Moisture
Interesting. I bet that works well. But wouldn't the rear end be a little fidgety around turns due to the shorter wheelbase?
fidgety - not sure exactly what that means.

One man's fidgety is another man's razor sharp handling.
The shorter chainstays make the rear triangle smaller and theoretically stiffer, more responsive.
HTA and fork offset contribute more to the overall handling than chainstay length.
Also the rider's position on the bike affects handling.
If a person rides a 'race' bike in an upright position the bike will not handle as designed (optimally).
Similarly, a bike designed for upright riding - will handle differently if fitted to be ridden in a lower, drop handlebar position.
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fidgety - not sure exactly what that means.

One man's fidgety is another man's razor sharp handling.
The shorter chainstays make the rear triangle smaller and theoretically stiffer, more responsive.
HTA and fork offset contribute more to the overall handling than chainstay length.
Also the rider's position on the bike affects handling.
If a person rides a 'race' bike in an upright position the bike will not handle as designed (optimally).
Similarly, a bike designed for upright riding - will handle differently if fitted to be ridden in a lower, drop handlebar position.
So why not simply make every frame use the same chainstay length? I'm sure they still contribute somewhat to the way a bike feels.

Whether the triangle is smaller or not and the way that can contribute to a marginal increase in stiffness can be easily negated on a larger rear triangle depending on how its assembled and the material being used.

My frame apparently uses hi tensile for the fork and rear triangle. Presumably to offer some minor road surface compliance.

Some modern bikes feature the seat stays mounted lower down on the seat tube than normal to offer a slight amount of compliance beneath the riders butt while stiffening the rear triangle a little like you said.

Looks like GT realized with their modern implementation of the rear triangle design that the extra set of welds at the seat tube isn't an ideal place to incorporate stiffness. The GT Grade carbon frame actually has about 2cm of flex in the seat stays depending on rider weight and how hard you're pushing the thing. Smart design.

Even with an ultra thin rear tire on my road bike (1.25") the amount of comfort and compliance I'm getting through the frame is remarkable. Even over major bumps the edge of the roughness is dispatched well. No need for wide tires with floppy sidewalls here, even if they did fit.

Would be nice to see that interesting seat tube design implemented more often. I wonder why it isn't. Looks like it biases the weight towards the rear of the bike nicely .
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