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Maybe it is my luck with Schwalbe, but they have been the worst effing tires I have used of late. In the past 2 years, I have had 1 flat on my Turbo Cottons, 1 flat on my GP5ks, 0 flats on my Gravelking slicks, 2 tubeless flats on my RapidAirs (both sealed). In the meantime, I have had to toss 2 Pro Ones due to side wall cuts, and a third Pro One due to the casing getting damaged - all within less than 1000km of riding. So i decided to try the regular Ones (a little more puncture protection and tan side walls): 3 flats in 500km and they feel noticeably sluggish on the ride. They sealed each time, but this experience has put me off Schwalbe for a while now..
Back to the original post - the Gravelking SKs most definitely do NOT ride too well on the road. I got a pair and sold them after 2 rides, as they were noticeably slower on tarmac. The Gravelking slicks, on the other hand, are a fantastic all-road tire. After I use up the above-mentioned POS Schwalbe Ones, i am going to use them as my training tire.
Back to the original post - the Gravelking SKs most definitely do NOT ride too well on the road. I got a pair and sold them after 2 rides, as they were noticeably slower on tarmac. The Gravelking slicks, on the other hand, are a fantastic all-road tire. After I use up the above-mentioned POS Schwalbe Ones, i am going to use them as my training tire.
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The previous gen Pro Ones had a reputation for being on the delicate side of things, but I haven't heard the same about the new Pro One Evo Addix etc etc. I've got about 5k miles on the new version and they've been good - one did take a 6-7mm cut that re-opened twice when banged just right (once on a bridge joint, once on a pothole edge), but it also sealed all three times without any intervention. They ride and roll very nicely, though, and are currently my favorite tire.
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Yeah, I read about the previous generation Pro Ones being susceptible to side wall cuts - which is why I was willing to try a different line of Schwalbes (the Ones, not the Pro Ones - which supposedly have more puncture protection). But after 3 flats on their supposedly more puncture-resistant tires, I think i am done with Schwalbes for a few years now. Corsas and Pirellis are on my list to try next.
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the Corsas and Pirelli (P Zero Velo Race, I assume?), though. Both are on my short list, too, though durability concerns with the Corsas had me take a pass on them for this year.
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We cant tell what the future brings to goodyear road tires hope it is a "goodyear", a bit more r&d into it might take them a level higher and probably see a pro team using one in the future.
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As do I. One of the only tires I have stocked religiously since they were introduced. Most of our riders are on Pirelli, Donnelly/Clement (if we could ever get any more LGGs), or Conti GP 5k. I only stock the 4S and the 4S TLR variants in 25 and 26 respectively.
We have extensive time on the Pirelli lineup...err...P Zero Velo that is. Both Velo and 4S variants as well as the TLR. Really a total tire. The 4S is slightly more durable and therefore slightly harder than the straight Velo. As such you can get the tiniest bit of chatter at high speed unweighted off camber stuff as an example but I have only ever had myself and one other rider ever notice that. Something you could reasonable push a bike to do and then notice - which is why I mention it - but nothing the vast majority of people here would ever notice.
It's sure as crap not like riding a dead Conti. I feel like some sort of computer nerd who mocks everyone running windows machines whenever I take shots at conti. i get it...they're ubiquitous and the only tire anyone on the internet seems to know about so I just try and accept that they will be on everything. WhyFi if you want to try the Pirelli I would highly recommend it. If you need to score a set to try then drop me a line through the site. I almost always have them on hand....in 4S and TLR in 25/26.
My understanding was that the current Ones are the old Pro Ones, at least that's what I'd read when the new Pro Ones were introduced.
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the Corsas and Pirelli (P Zero Velo Race, I assume?), though. Both are on my short list, too, though durability concerns with the Corsas had me take a pass on them for this year.
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the Corsas and Pirelli (P Zero Velo Race, I assume?), though. Both are on my short list, too, though durability concerns with the Corsas had me take a pass on them for this year.
It's sure as crap not like riding a dead Conti. I feel like some sort of computer nerd who mocks everyone running windows machines whenever I take shots at conti. i get it...they're ubiquitous and the only tire anyone on the internet seems to know about so I just try and accept that they will be on everything. WhyFi if you want to try the Pirelli I would highly recommend it. If you need to score a set to try then drop me a line through the site. I almost always have them on hand....in 4S and TLR in 25/26.
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As do I. One of the only tires I have stocked religiously since they were introduced. Most of our riders are on Pirelli, Donnelly/Clement (if we could ever get any more LGGs), or Conti GP 5k. I only stock the 4S and the 4S TLR variants in 25 and 26 respectively.
We have extensive time on the Pirelli lineup...err...P Zero Velo that is. Both Velo and 4S variants as well as the TLR. Really a total tire. The 4S is slightly more durable and therefore slightly harder than the straight Velo. As such you can get the tiniest bit of chatter at high speed unweighted off camber stuff as an example but I have only ever had myself and one other rider ever notice that. Something you could reasonable push a bike to do and then notice - which is why I mention it - but nothing the vast majority of people here would ever notice.
It's sure as crap not like riding a dead Conti. I feel like some sort of computer nerd who mocks everyone running windows machines whenever I take shots at conti. i get it...they're ubiquitous and the only tire anyone on the internet seems to know about so I just try and accept that they will be on everything. WhyFi if you want to try the Pirelli I would highly recommend it. If you need to score a set to try then drop me a line through the site. I almost always have them on hand....in 4S and TLR in 25/26.
We have extensive time on the Pirelli lineup...err...P Zero Velo that is. Both Velo and 4S variants as well as the TLR. Really a total tire. The 4S is slightly more durable and therefore slightly harder than the straight Velo. As such you can get the tiniest bit of chatter at high speed unweighted off camber stuff as an example but I have only ever had myself and one other rider ever notice that. Something you could reasonable push a bike to do and then notice - which is why I mention it - but nothing the vast majority of people here would ever notice.
It's sure as crap not like riding a dead Conti. I feel like some sort of computer nerd who mocks everyone running windows machines whenever I take shots at conti. i get it...they're ubiquitous and the only tire anyone on the internet seems to know about so I just try and accept that they will be on everything. WhyFi if you want to try the Pirelli I would highly recommend it. If you need to score a set to try then drop me a line through the site. I almost always have them on hand....in 4S and TLR in 25/26.
And yeah, I never got the Conti GP4kII hype, so the fact that the 5ks aren't hookless compatible was no loss when I considered and decided upon on the 303S.
Currently have high hopes for my tire-o'-the-year for 2021 - Michelin Power Road TLRs, which just arrived yesterday.
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My understanding was that the current Ones are the old Pro Ones, at least that's what I'd read when the new Pro Ones were introduced.
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the Corsas and Pirelli (P Zero Velo Race, I assume?), though. Both are on my short list, too, though durability concerns with the Corsas had me take a pass on them for this year.
I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on the Corsas and Pirelli (P Zero Velo Race, I assume?), though. Both are on my short list, too, though durability concerns with the Corsas had me take a pass on them for this year.
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Damn it. I see that LordGun has 28mm Pirelli P Zero Race TLRs in stock at a pretty good price. I already have all of the tires that I'll need for the year, but damn Psimet2001 and his glowing testimonials has me thinking, "why not both?"
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It is, but one with a puncture protection layer. Generally race tires without a puncture protection layer are marked or marketed as timetrial tires (examples; Continental Supersonic, Vittoria Corsa Speed, Schwalbe Pro One TT, Michelin Power TT), while road race tires (such as the GP5000, Schwalbe Pro One, Vittoria Corsa, etc) do have a puncture protection layer underneath the thread; this makes them a slight bit heavier and often the rolling resistance is slightly higher, but not by much while the puncture protection is much improved.
If you take one of those in tubeless, it's exceedingly unlikely to flat.
If you take one of those in tubeless, it's exceedingly unlikely to flat.
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Wear dots still OK. I guess there might be a few more km in it but I'm not game to find out.
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Damn it. I see that LordGun has 28mm Pirelli P Zero Race TLRs in stock at a pretty good price. I already have all of the tires that I'll need for the year, but damn Psimet2001 and his glowing testimonials has me thinking, "why not both?"
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Any decent alternatives to the Gravelking slicks? 35-40c, no side knobs, skinwalls and and slick is what I'm after. GK's are actualy quite expensive in Europe, and I'm not ready to pay that much for a tire that wears out that quickly. Road touring and urban riding is what I need from them.
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Any decent alternatives to the Gravelking slicks? 35-40c, no side knobs, skinwalls and and slick is what I'm after. GK's are actualy quite expensive in Europe, and I'm not ready to pay that much for a tire that wears out that quickly. Road touring and urban riding is what I need from them.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...-bon-jon-pass/
The Extralight casing can be a hassle to set up tubeless, so the hottest ticket is probably to run Aerothan tubes in those. The Standard casing does tubeless easily.
P.S. I had a lot of fun drinking rakija in Croatia!
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The Rene Herse Bon Jon Pass is a tire you’ll want to check out.
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...-bon-jon-pass/
The Extralight casing can be a hassle to set up tubeless, so the hottest ticket is probably to run Aerothan tubes in those. The Standard casing does tubeless easily.
P.S. I had a lot of fun drinking rakija in Croatia!
https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...-bon-jon-pass/
The Extralight casing can be a hassle to set up tubeless, so the hottest ticket is probably to run Aerothan tubes in those. The Standard casing does tubeless easily.
P.S. I had a lot of fun drinking rakija in Croatia!
I might just go with panaracer pisela protite wire beads, if I can get them.
My nick actually means granny's rakija. I'm from Slovenia, next to Croatia, the rakija is just as good, while we can't really compete with their seaside. A lot of great roads for cycling in both countries though.
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