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Old 02-24-21, 10:33 AM
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when the first human explorers reach Mars, what kind of bike should they bring? why?
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Titanium Single speed fat bikes. Mars has minimal atmosphere and no roads. Most of the surface is dust and rock. Use a dry lube, so the hematite prevalent all over the planet doesn't chew up the chain.
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It'd be a fat-tire e-mountain bike. Aside from the ridiculously cold temperatures, you'd need one heck of a gratuitously designed CO2/O2 scrubber for your environmental suit. Extra respiration would be an engineering problem.

Though I can imagine pure O2 athlete performance, & low gravity combined with low atmospheric pressure would lead to some interesting velodrome results.

O2 suit doping...Standby for the UCI fun-police to draft a rule...Pure O2 is fun.

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Obviously I've never done it, or even seen it. It sounds like riding on Mars is only slightly safer than riding on Earth. I assume you use around 3 inch bombproof tires, but it would seem to me the tires/bike would still take a beating. And would humans do it for ... fun?
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Originally Posted by mack_turtle
when the first human explorers reach Mars, what kind of bike should they bring? why?

Bike? As in singular?

Obviously, whatever they decide to bring, they should bring two of them. So the astronauts would have someone to wave at.
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A bike with a carbon fiber frame, disc brakes, electronic shifting, and tubeless tires. Then, when it performs beautifully, perhaps people will stop arguing over all of the modern technology here on bf.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
GMC Denali.
But that means they'd need a mars craigslist and a garage to try and sell it from.

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I'd laugh if someone in Houston or Cape Canaveral listed the Mars bike on one of those CLs. "Local pickup only" of course.

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GMC Denali.
I heard that's a great bike.


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Originally Posted by Unca_Sam
But that means they'd need a mars craigslist and a garage to try and sell it from.
Garage?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Garage?
Scrapyard?
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Originally Posted by base2
It'd be a fat-tire e-mountain bike. Aside from the ridiculously cold temperatures, you'd need one heck of a gratuitously designed CO2/O2 scrubber for your environmental suit. Extra respiration would be an engineering problem.

Though I can imagine pure O2 athlete performance, & low gravity combined with low atmospheric pressure would lead to some interesting velodrome results.
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Thin atmosphere yeah, not quite a vacuum. At least aero won’t be such a design focus!

Although a breathing apparatus will be required, I wonder if human skin (with some protective layering) can adapt to the Martian atmosphere over generations and maybe genetic programming. With no ozone layer and Megnetosphere on Mars, UV and other radiation might still require some thick spandex and merino wool layers regardless
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Scrapyard?

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Whatever they do, they shouldn't allow more than one vehicle, whether with motor or not. For certain if there are two vehicles they will run into each other soon enough.
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Whatever they do, they shouldn't allow more than one vehicle, whether with motor or not. For certain if there are two vehicles they will run into each other soon enough.
I can just imagine the threads that would start in the A&S forum.
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Hmm, I think Strava may not work.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I'm familiar with your joke... They're always sold in front of a pickup truck bumper, cluttered garage, or a scrapyard...
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Hmm, I think Strava may not work.
but when it does, think of all the KOMs you'll have!
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Whatever they do, they shouldn't allow more than one vehicle, whether with motor or not. For certain if there are two vehicles they will run into each other soon enough.
There's already more than one vehicle on Mars. In related news...I'm eagerly anticipating the first round of BattleBots from Mars.
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There's already more than one vehicle on Mars. In related news...I'm eagerly anticipating the first round of BattleBots from Mars.
Yes there are, but I'd trust the autonomous vehicles more. I doubt they'll be distracted by cell phones or just simply assing around with a friend showing off. <grin>

I actually look forward to autonomous vehicles taking over here. For sure I hope they won't go down an acceleration lane lane at 30 mph and stop when they can't merge into 70 mph traffic with six car length gaps between them.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
Yes there are, but I'd trust the autonomous vehicles more. I doubt they'll be distracted by cell phones or just simply assing around with a friend showing off. <grin>

I actually look forward to autonomous vehicles taking over here. For sure I hope they won't go down an acceleration lane lane at 30 mph and stop when they can't merge into 70 mph traffic with six car length gaps between them.
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A full suspension recumbent is more likely to be on mars.
any error with autonomous vehicles is still a liability to who owns the vehicle. You don't get to take naps while being shuttled to work in your AI vessel. You're insurance rates will not become vastly cheaper. All it's enabling are those that are distracted normally while driving is to become even less assertive.
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