45 Years Ago: March 1979 in Bicycling magazine
#1
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,996
Bikes: Litespeed (9); Slingshot (9); Specialized (3); Kestrel (2); Cervelo (1); FELT (1); Trek (2)
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 439 Post(s)
Liked 3,488 Times
in
1,002 Posts
45 Years Ago: March 1979 in Bicycling magazine
Articles/columns included in this post are:
LETTERS
TECHNICAL Q and A
"Needed: A Sense of Humor and a High Bottom Bracket" is presented in Post #2.
The following articles from this issue were included in past posts:
BICYCLE WORKSHOP What's New at Campagnolo? (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ort-group.html)
"Fifty Hours with a Master Builder" (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ce-gordon.html)
"Road Test and Evaluation: The $200 Range" (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...250-bikes.html)
Otherwise, let me know if you'd like to see something else listed in the ToC and I'll add it in a reply to this post or as a link to a pdf.
LETTERS
TECHNICAL Q and A
"Needed: A Sense of Humor and a High Bottom Bracket" is presented in Post #2.
The following articles from this issue were included in past posts:
BICYCLE WORKSHOP What's New at Campagnolo? (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ort-group.html)
"Fifty Hours with a Master Builder" (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...ce-gordon.html)
"Road Test and Evaluation: The $200 Range" (https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...250-bikes.html)
Otherwise, let me know if you'd like to see something else listed in the ToC and I'll add it in a reply to this post or as a link to a pdf.
__________________
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
Likes For SpeedofLite:
#2
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,996
Bikes: Litespeed (9); Slingshot (9); Specialized (3); Kestrel (2); Cervelo (1); FELT (1); Trek (2)
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 439 Post(s)
Liked 3,488 Times
in
1,002 Posts
__________________
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
#3
Freewheel Medic
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: An Island on the Coast of GA!
Posts: 12,895
Bikes: Snazzy* Schwinns, Classy Cannondales & a Super Pro Aero Lotus (* Ed.)
Mentioned: 140 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1458 Post(s)
Liked 2,206 Times
in
967 Posts
I'd be interested in reading Bicycling's take on "Choosing Bicycle Tires," and "Made it Myself." As always, thanks for posting these issues. Always fun and interesting to read.
__________________
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Bob
Enjoying the GA coast all year long!
Thanks for visiting my website: www.freewheelspa.com
Likes For pastorbobnlnh:
#4
Newbie
Wow, Bicycling was a really good magazine once upon a time. Thanks again for posting all the scans.
Likes For 13velos:
#5
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan & Woodstock NY
Posts: 2,763
Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, early '70s Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1
Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 944 Post(s)
Liked 3,005 Times
in
990 Posts
Isn't that Wanda Omelian on the cover? Was the Master Builder article about her?
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, 197? Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1971 Raleigh International, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 2016 Dawes Streetfighter, 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1975 Motobecane Jubile Mixte, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1973 Free Spirit Ted Williams, 1972 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Philips Sport
1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, 197? Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1971 Raleigh International, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 2016 Dawes Streetfighter, 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1975 Motobecane Jubile Mixte, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1973 Free Spirit Ted Williams, 1972 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Philips Sport
#6
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 4,485
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1833 Post(s)
Liked 3,404 Times
in
1,589 Posts
That Bridgestone ad, featuring "Synchro Memory Shift" with click shifting and both levers on the right side of the down tube... what the heck was up with that?
... and why don't I remember hearing about this?
My recollection of indexed shifting was that the Shimano Positron was the first commercially successful indexed derailleur, and that was a few years earlier. It placed the indexing mechanism in the derailleur itself. Was this Bridgestone device a variation on that, or were they indexing at the lever?
Digging through my stuff, I see that a 1980 Bike Warehouse catalog had Shimano Uniglide hubs and cassettes, so the foundation for indexed shifting was there.
My copy of The Dancing Chain says that Shimano didn't introduce indexed shifting until 1985 (see page 260).
So what the heck was Bridgestone doing with "click shifting" back in '79?
Maybe it was just a noisy version of friction shifting?
.. and do I need to ask Grant P. to see if he remembers?
Steve in Peoria
(happy to have an excuse to dig out The Dancing Chain and browse through it)
... and why don't I remember hearing about this?
My recollection of indexed shifting was that the Shimano Positron was the first commercially successful indexed derailleur, and that was a few years earlier. It placed the indexing mechanism in the derailleur itself. Was this Bridgestone device a variation on that, or were they indexing at the lever?
Digging through my stuff, I see that a 1980 Bike Warehouse catalog had Shimano Uniglide hubs and cassettes, so the foundation for indexed shifting was there.
My copy of The Dancing Chain says that Shimano didn't introduce indexed shifting until 1985 (see page 260).
So what the heck was Bridgestone doing with "click shifting" back in '79?
Maybe it was just a noisy version of friction shifting?
.. and do I need to ask Grant P. to see if he remembers?
Steve in Peoria
(happy to have an excuse to dig out The Dancing Chain and browse through it)
Likes For steelbikeguy:
#7
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,996
Bikes: Litespeed (9); Slingshot (9); Specialized (3); Kestrel (2); Cervelo (1); FELT (1); Trek (2)
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 439 Post(s)
Liked 3,488 Times
in
1,002 Posts
__________________
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
Likes For SpeedofLite:
#8
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,996
Bikes: Litespeed (9); Slingshot (9); Specialized (3); Kestrel (2); Cervelo (1); FELT (1); Trek (2)
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 439 Post(s)
Liked 3,488 Times
in
1,002 Posts
__________________
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
Likes For SpeedofLite:
#9
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Manhattan & Woodstock NY
Posts: 2,763
Bikes: 1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, early '70s Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Raleigh International, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mk1
Mentioned: 109 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 944 Post(s)
Liked 3,005 Times
in
990 Posts
Very cool, thanks. I think I've seen that photo before and now I know who it really is.
__________________
1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, 197? Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1971 Raleigh International, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 2016 Dawes Streetfighter, 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1975 Motobecane Jubile Mixte, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1973 Free Spirit Ted Williams, 1972 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Philips Sport
1987 Mercian Pro, 1985 Shogun 500, 197? Falcon San Remo, 1972 Peugeot PX-10, 1972 Schwinn Paramount P13-9, 1971 Peugeot PX-10, 1971 Raleigh International, 1970 Raleigh Professional Mark I
Curator/Team Mechanic: 2016 Dawes Streetfighter, 1984 Lotus Eclair, 1975 Motobecane Jubile Mixte, 1974 Raleigh Sports, 1973 Free Spirit Ted Williams, 1972 Raleigh Super Course, 1971 Philips Sport
Likes For ascherer:
#10
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 2,123
Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport
Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 813 Post(s)
Liked 1,033 Times
in
671 Posts
I remember that issue and a few years after this article, I worked at a Schwinn dealer and then learned that the Paramounts frames were made by women. I also learned that most of the wheelbuilders were women as well. And that they were fast at getting the spokes into the alternate holes of the hub. When you do that all day everyday you get pretty good at it. They would laugh at me building a wheel.
Likes For Velo Mule:
#11
Full Member
Join Date: Jan 2023
Posts: 486
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 175 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 452 Times
in
232 Posts
The Frostline kits!
Here's one of the pannier. Think to yet have my framed backpack.
Also have stashed somewhere the similar student hosteling program full biking kit + day backpack.
Shortly later really stepped up to some new company and splurged for them fancy baggy Cannondale kit for trip along the eastern US. Ooooooh... haha.
Here's one of the pannier. Think to yet have my framed backpack.
Also have stashed somewhere the similar student hosteling program full biking kit + day backpack.
Shortly later really stepped up to some new company and splurged for them fancy baggy Cannondale kit for trip along the eastern US. Ooooooh... haha.
Likes For chain_whipped:
#12
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Kingdom of Hawai'i
Posts: 1,211
Bikes: Peugeot, Legnano, Fuji, Zunow, De Rosa, Miyata, Bianchi, Pinarello, Specialized, Bridgestone, Cinelli, Merckx
Mentioned: 17 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 433 Post(s)
Liked 517 Times
in
223 Posts
Interested in the Touring in Hawaii article if you don't mind.
#13
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Baltimore, MD
Posts: 5,436
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2515 Post(s)
Liked 2,995 Times
in
1,701 Posts
That Bridgestone ad, featuring "Synchro Memory Shift" with click shifting and both levers on the right side of the down tube... what the heck was up with that?
... and why don't I remember hearing about this?
My recollection of indexed shifting was that the Shimano Positron was the first commercially successful indexed derailleur, and that was a few years earlier. It placed the indexing mechanism in the derailleur itself. Was this Bridgestone device a variation on that, or were they indexing at the lever?
Digging through my stuff, I see that a 1980 Bike Warehouse catalog had Shimano Uniglide hubs and cassettes, so the foundation for indexed shifting was there.
My copy of The Dancing Chain says that Shimano didn't introduce indexed shifting until 1985 (see page 260).
So what the heck was Bridgestone doing with "click shifting" back in '79?
Maybe it was just a noisy version of friction shifting?
.. and do I need to ask Grant P. to see if he remembers?
Steve in Peoria
(happy to have an excuse to dig out The Dancing Chain and browse through it)
... and why don't I remember hearing about this?
My recollection of indexed shifting was that the Shimano Positron was the first commercially successful indexed derailleur, and that was a few years earlier. It placed the indexing mechanism in the derailleur itself. Was this Bridgestone device a variation on that, or were they indexing at the lever?
Digging through my stuff, I see that a 1980 Bike Warehouse catalog had Shimano Uniglide hubs and cassettes, so the foundation for indexed shifting was there.
My copy of The Dancing Chain says that Shimano didn't introduce indexed shifting until 1985 (see page 260).
So what the heck was Bridgestone doing with "click shifting" back in '79?
Maybe it was just a noisy version of friction shifting?
.. and do I need to ask Grant P. to see if he remembers?
Steve in Peoria
(happy to have an excuse to dig out The Dancing Chain and browse through it)
Likes For Trakhak:
#14
Insane Bicycle Mechanic
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: other Vancouver
Posts: 9,855
Mentioned: 34 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 810 Post(s)
Liked 722 Times
in
385 Posts
So what the heck was Bridgestone doing with "click shifting" back in '79?
Maybe it was just a noisy version of friction shifting?
.. and do I need to ask Grant P. to see if he remembers?
Steve in Peoria
(happy to have an excuse to dig out The Dancing Chain and browse through it)
Maybe it was just a noisy version of friction shifting?
.. and do I need to ask Grant P. to see if he remembers?
Steve in Peoria
(happy to have an excuse to dig out The Dancing Chain and browse through it)
- The Uniglide sprockets and chain that sped up shifts and helped prevent hanging on tops of cogs.
- The “Centeron” upper derailleur pulley that allowed slight misalignment between derailleur and sprocket.
- Special cables and cable housing that for more consistent coordination between the shift lever and derailleur.
- Shimano’s tighter specs for dropout and derailleur hanger alignment.
It wasn’t one big thing… just a bunch of little things that Shimano insisted on that created their steamroller in the ‘80’s.
__________________
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Jeff Wills
Comcast nuked my web page. It will return soon..
Likes For Jeff Wills:
#15
I don't know.
Join Date: May 2003
Location: South Meriden, CT
Posts: 2,032
Bikes: '90 B'stone RB-1, '92 B'stone RB-2, '89 SuperGo Access Comp, '03 Access 69er, '23 Trek 520, '14 Ritchey Road Logic, '09 Kestrel Evoke, '08 Windsor Tourist, '17 Surly Wednesday, '89 Centurion Accordo, '15 CruX, '17 Ridley X-Night, '89 Marinoni
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 321 Post(s)
Liked 869 Times
in
452 Posts
thanks Trakhak for that BS article. That one got by me. I'd never heard of it before now.
#16
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Central Florida, USA
Posts: 1,996
Bikes: Litespeed (9); Slingshot (9); Specialized (3); Kestrel (2); Cervelo (1); FELT (1); Trek (2)
Mentioned: 39 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 439 Post(s)
Liked 3,488 Times
in
1,002 Posts
I don't mind. Here you go.
__________________
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
WTB: Slingshot bicycle promotional documents (catalog, pamphlets, etc).
WTB: American Cycling May - Aug, Oct, Dec 1966.
WTB: Bicycle Guide issues 1984 (any); Jun 1987; Jul, Nov/Dec 1992; Apr 1994; 1996 -1998 (any)
WTB: Bike World issue Jun 1974.
Likes For SpeedofLite:
#17
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Peoria, IL
Posts: 4,485
Mentioned: 86 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1833 Post(s)
Liked 3,404 Times
in
1,589 Posts
Here's an article about Bridgestone Synchro Memory Shift from the Disraeli Gears website.
That's a much better design than I expected... although it seems to be a less elegant than the earlier Positron.
I wonder why Bridgestone thought they could solve this technical problem themselves (with the help of SunTour)? Either they had too much cash laying around or someone really sold the idea to management.
Steve in Peoria
Likes For steelbikeguy:
#18
ambulatory senior
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Peoria Il
Posts: 6,001
Bikes: Austro Daimler modified by Gugie! Raleigh Professional and lots of other bikes.
Mentioned: 76 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1957 Post(s)
Liked 3,664 Times
in
1,682 Posts
As above, there were lots of attempts at index shifting, some dating back to the turn of the century. Shimano’s SIS combined several enhancements that made it successful:
It wasn’t one big thing… just a bunch of little things that Shimano insisted on that created their steamroller in the ‘80’s.
- The Uniglide sprockets and chain that sped up shifts and helped prevent hanging on tops of cogs.
- The “Centeron” upper derailleur pulley that allowed slight misalignment between derailleur and sprocket.
- Special cables and cable housing that for more consistent coordination between the shift lever and derailleur.
- Shimano’s tighter specs for dropout and derailleur hanger alignment.
It wasn’t one big thing… just a bunch of little things that Shimano insisted on that created their steamroller in the ‘80’s.
It's the latest thing!
Likes For 52telecaster: