Does a decent plate-less mounted kickstand exist?
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Does a decent plate-less mounted kickstand exist?
Up to now the only bikes here that got a kickstand had flat chainstay bridges, built-for-purpose.
But now a bike here without that bridge could use one.
Is there a kickstand that won't mar the stays and is otherwise sufficient?
But now a bike here without that bridge could use one.
Is there a kickstand that won't mar the stays and is otherwise sufficient?
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You get the rear kickstand that mounts near the axle.
Not much force is needed for those bolts, and I always wrap stays with one layer of inner tubing to prevent said marring.
And no worries about cranks hitting kickstand when walking the bike backwards.
Not much force is needed for those bolts, and I always wrap stays with one layer of inner tubing to prevent said marring.
And no worries about cranks hitting kickstand when walking the bike backwards.
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I was looking at those; this bike has a front-wheel motor and a battery forward of the rear axle and I was hoping for a support closer to the cog.
The tubes are round, so likely I'll make some half-round inserts and try them.
The tubes are round, so likely I'll make some half-round inserts and try them.
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The reason why these rear kickstand use less clamping force is because they don't need to be as tight.
The stays prevent the stand from twisting, which occurs often on bottom bracket stands.
I have seen bottom bracket stands bolted on so tight, they squished and deformed the chainstays.
The stays prevent the stand from twisting, which occurs often on bottom bracket stands.
I have seen bottom bracket stands bolted on so tight, they squished and deformed the chainstays.
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Greenfield rear kickstand
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wrt chainstay mount you may wish to investigate some of the products of HEBIE (DE), Trygg (SE) & Shuresta (UK)
mention these three only because all three had multiple models done over a long period
am not familiar with all models
very much appreciate inquiry; we have all seen nice frames with chain stays pancaked by propstand mounts
have had some where the "mechanic" kept leaning on the spanner until they achieved complete collapse of both stays![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
unfortunately, have no printed materials from HEBIE or Trygg...
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wonder if the wedge-shaped mounting bracket from the Sanyo dynamo might be of help here...it spreads the load out well
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wrt chainstay mount you may wish to investigate some of the products of HEBIE (DE), Trygg (SE) & Shuresta (UK)
mention these three only because all three had multiple models done over a long period
am not familiar with all models
very much appreciate inquiry; we have all seen nice frames with chain stays pancaked by propstand mounts
have had some where the "mechanic" kept leaning on the spanner until they achieved complete collapse of both stays
![EEK!](images/smilies/eek.gif)
unfortunately, have no printed materials from HEBIE or Trygg...
![](https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikeforums.net-vbulletin/402x599/shuresta_advert_a__7dec15456a54622a00c931b5fb58e6573245763c.jpg)
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wonder if the wedge-shaped mounting bracket from the Sanyo dynamo might be of help here...it spreads the load out well
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When do you need a kickstand?
If I'm riding out in the countryside, clearly not. I think the only time it might come in handy is when you're riding around town. If you stop and use the kickstand and walk away from your bike, there's a good chance it won't be there when you get back, so you'll probably lock it to something, negating the need for a kickstand. There are times when I've ridden in large organized groups where there wasn't anything to tie to, and felt secure leaving my bike to have some lunch. The ol' two bike kickstand trick works well for that.
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If I'm riding out in the countryside, clearly not. I think the only time it might come in handy is when you're riding around town. If you stop and use the kickstand and walk away from your bike, there's a good chance it won't be there when you get back, so you'll probably lock it to something, negating the need for a kickstand. There are times when I've ridden in large organized groups where there wasn't anything to tie to, and felt secure leaving my bike to have some lunch. The ol' two bike kickstand trick works well for that.
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On our 2023 Touroica 5 day tour we had a dozen riders. When we were out in the boonies and needed a lunch/bio break, we just did this:
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And anyone states that their bike is too nice to lay down like this, note that we had a Cinelli, Paramount, Merz, and an Ebisu on this 5 day tour. None of them had a kickstand.
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