Rigid Fork vs Susp Fork on Road/Light Trail Bike
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You could make a small lever that fit into a pedal as if it were a shoe cleat to hold the bike up with the crank at the proper position and carry it in your jersey.
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Very long and involved story but I ended up not getting the Orbea. The short version is that two friends staged an intervention and steered me to an entirely different bike. Fortunately, the Orbea build had not gone to the point of no return and the money was refunded. My new bike is promised within 7-10 days and is fully paid for and non-refundable at this point.
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The shop will be replacing the stock tires with 700x38 Marathon Plus, a choice which elicited consternation from my salesman. I have also discovered that I cannot put a kickstand on a carbon fiber bike, it's just not done. There are no mounting holes and one cannot clamp things to carbon fiber. This fact does not exactly instill confidence in the durability of carbon fiber
Pics when it comes.
The shop will be replacing the stock tires with 700x38 Marathon Plus, a choice which elicited consternation from my salesman. I have also discovered that I cannot put a kickstand on a carbon fiber bike, it's just not done. There are no mounting holes and one cannot clamp things to carbon fiber. This fact does not exactly instill confidence in the durability of carbon fiber
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You seem to be very all over the place with your new bike purchase. I think you really need to figure out what you want first rather than panning to buy Bike A, then Bike B, then ordering Bike C, then what tire should you use, now maybe you should get a suspension fork on the MTB that you're not even using as a MTB. Next you'll somehow change your order to a downhill bike and ask about putting tubulars on it...
I'd suggest you first figure out what exactly you want this bike to do well, then determine what type of frame, fork, component and tire setup fits those needs and then narrow down bikes that fit those criteria.
I'd suggest you first figure out what exactly you want this bike to do well, then determine what type of frame, fork, component and tire setup fits those needs and then narrow down bikes that fit those criteria.
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The saga is over. Used info from here and friends who intervened on the Orbea. Bought paid for no touchbacks.
Got $700 off
Will post pic when I pick it up.
Got $700 off
Will post pic when I pick it up.
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Very long and involved story but I ended up not getting the Orbea. The short version is that two friends staged an intervention and steered me to an entirely different bike. Fortunately, the Orbea build had not gone to the point of no return and the money was refunded. My new bike is promised within 7-10 days and is fully paid for and non-refundable at this point.
Pics when it comes.
The shop will be replacing the stock tires with 700x38 Marathon Plus, a choice which elicited consternation from my salesman. I have also discovered that I cannot put a kickstand on a carbon fiber bike, it's just not done. There are no mounting holes and one cannot clamp things to carbon fiber. This fact does not exactly instill confidence in the durability of carbon fiber
Pics when it comes.
The shop will be replacing the stock tires with 700x38 Marathon Plus, a choice which elicited consternation from my salesman. I have also discovered that I cannot put a kickstand on a carbon fiber bike, it's just not done. There are no mounting holes and one cannot clamp things to carbon fiber. This fact does not exactly instill confidence in the durability of carbon fiber
And you're still refusing to take advice from those who know more than you about tires... Double Great Job!!!
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Cane Creek is going to release an upside down fork this summer that looks really attractive. Well see.
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Very long and involved story but I ended up not getting the Orbea. The short version is that two friends staged an intervention and steered me to an entirely different bike. Fortunately, the Orbea build had not gone to the point of no return and the money was refunded. My new bike is promised within 7-10 days and is fully paid for and non-refundable at this point.
Pics when it comes.
The shop will be replacing the stock tires with 700x38 Marathon Plus, a choice which elicited consternation from my salesman. I have also discovered that I cannot put a kickstand on a carbon fiber bike, it's just not done. There are no mounting holes and one cannot clamp things to carbon fiber. This fact does not exactly instill confidence in the durability of carbon fiber
Pics when it comes.
The shop will be replacing the stock tires with 700x38 Marathon Plus, a choice which elicited consternation from my salesman. I have also discovered that I cannot put a kickstand on a carbon fiber bike, it's just not done. There are no mounting holes and one cannot clamp things to carbon fiber. This fact does not exactly instill confidence in the durability of carbon fiber
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Did not know that either. I’ve just always had a kickstand. Very handy accessory. So you could not even clamp one on a high end steel bike ?
I had one clamped on a cheap Norco hybrid bike for 20yrs. No damage. And I have one on my current aluminum commuter
I had one clamped on a cheap Norco hybrid bike for 20yrs. No damage. And I have one on my current aluminum commuter
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Seems like a fine bike for a kickstand. I’d use something with a thicker top plate that won’t bend easily, like a Greenfield kickstand, and be careful to get it tight enough but not too tight.
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so I can clamp a kickstand on my (relatively) cheap hybrid aluminum bike and I had one bolted to a $300 Norco for 20yrs but on my new cf bike, I risk damaging the bike.
huh
huh
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What carbon bike is this? Sounds like it's just as ill suited for commuting as the original Orbea.
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Yes, mainly because production of (and demand for) CF commuter bikes is almost nonexistent. It can be done (like the FX Sport) but most carbon bikes prioritize low weight over provisions for things like kickstands and racks.
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Still being coy about the new bike.
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this type seems to use less pressure, but I would still not use on anything high end
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i hate to break it to you, but you shouldn’t be buying a higher end bike. Your “huh” comment clarifies that even now that you’ve gone through discussions about 4 bikes you were planning to buy and are getting good info and advice from many sources, you’re incapable of or refuse to gain any understanding before making purchase decisions.
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Use of the common center mount kickstand wasn't a problem back when nearly all bike frames were built with thick-wall, heavy high-tensile steel. It was only when lightweight frames built with thin-wall steel tubing started being sold in great numbers that kickstands were seen to crush the chain stays.
The damage is potentially even worse with the aluminum tubing used in better bikes. (The cheap thick-wall aluminum tubing used in Walmart-level bikes can usually withstand the clamping force of a kickstand pretty well.)
I used to see such damage often when I worked in bike stores - most often on aluminum bikes, but frequently on steel bikes, too. Here's a Surly blog post responding to people who complained to them about kickstand clamps damaging the chain stays on Long Haul Truckers.
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I just find a dichotomy between the fact the frame can withstand the weight of a rider over harsh terrain and not a kickstand.
yes. I bought a cf bike . I’ll post a pic within 14 days.
yes. I bought a cf bike . I’ll post a pic within 14 days.
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So what have you finally bought? So far we know it has a carbon frame and you will have to get used to not using a kickstand.
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Think how thin the seat stays are on some bikes .... they are designed to bear relatively small loads, and even to flex a little to absorb shock .... but look at the junction of the down tubes, chainstays and bottom bracket .... thick and meaty .... The strength is where it needs to be .... and if the chainstay was not designed for a kickstand, that extra load where it is not intended to be, could overstress the specific spot.
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I’m curious why the mechanic doesn’t want to install your chosen tires. Is it because they’re the wrong size for your rims?
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Size is good. The bike comes with a 700x40mm tire and a tubeless set up which the salesman seemed keen on.
Two reasons I switched tires. One, the included tires got a horrible review on a website that appears very thorough and reputable. Second, and more importantly, I don’t want to deal with sealant maintenance. The bike will be kept in a lean-to year round which I would imagine necessitates more frequent sealant checks.
I want the set it and forget it, no stress tire set-up, the Marathon Plus promise.
Two reasons I switched tires. One, the included tires got a horrible review on a website that appears very thorough and reputable. Second, and more importantly, I don’t want to deal with sealant maintenance. The bike will be kept in a lean-to year round which I would imagine necessitates more frequent sealant checks.
I want the set it and forget it, no stress tire set-up, the Marathon Plus promise.
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Size is good. The bike comes with a 700x40mm tire and a tubeless set up which the salesman seemed keen on.
Two reasons I switched tires. One, the included tires got a horrible review on a website that appears very thorough and reputable. Second, and more importantly, I don’t want to deal with sealant maintenance. The bike will be kept in a lean-to year round which I would imagine necessitates more frequent sealant checks.
I want the set it and forget it, no stress tire set-up, the Marathon Plus promise.
Two reasons I switched tires. One, the included tires got a horrible review on a website that appears very thorough and reputable. Second, and more importantly, I don’t want to deal with sealant maintenance. The bike will be kept in a lean-to year round which I would imagine necessitates more frequent sealant checks.
I want the set it and forget it, no stress tire set-up, the Marathon Plus promise.