Alexthe

Yes ,but is the wheelbase short in this particular case ,it being a 48 cm?. Thank you for the comment I am going to try it out again, and, with a friends 50 cm Beottichi < (wrong spelling)

xiaoman1 

Look at post 444 on this thread, it may be what you are looking for and the price is fair INMHO.
https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-v...-co-op-18.html

Best, Ben
Robvolz

Mad Honk 

Alexthe Take Ben's advice. If you have an inseam of 29-30 inches it will be fine for you to ride. The price is right and I am sure Rob will help with shipping. I am 5'6" with a 29 inch inseam and normally ride a 54. The parts on the co-op bike make it worth the purchase price, but combined they are worth more than the 48 cm you were looking at. The seat alone is worth more than a new Terry would cost if you decided to make a change. I have even thought about asking to buy the Gios, but I have six vintage Italian bikes already and should keep my desires under control. If you get it it would save me from spending more on bikes than I need to. Smiles, MH

Alexthe

Thank you very interesting. I don't have that much experience riding different sizes I am riding a 53cm now , and wanted to try something smaller more agile? Lighter and easier to use in New York. If I lived in the country would want to go the biggest size possible. I'm not saying not all, but this bike is a 54 cm and I now have a 53 cm that I would like to try a smaller bike? I am closer to 5'5 in height my inseam is like yours about 30. I don't have a short torso either or arms. But I'm 5'5 maybe in-between 5'6. If the bike wear a 50cm or 51cm I would take it. But I don't know yet I'll talk about it with him.
Do you think I'm wrong about the best size for me being a 50 or 51 cm?
even 53cm is a little big for me . not so big it's uncomfortable but big enough to feel big and most likely not 100% optimal .so I got one bike kind of a little too big and another bike I'm looking at that's very small may produce its own advantages and disadvantage is the perfect size is more like 50 cm or 51 cm that may be very hard to find ? I don't know.

Robvolz 

I am more than happy to help the co-op with the sale and packing and shipping.

Dollar Tree just got their pool noodles in!!

However, I still think the Specialized we got in would make a better touring/commuter bike

bboy314

I think you’re overestimated how much frame size will impact ease of carrying/agility. Also I think you’re choosing about the worst kind of bike for NYC commuting, but of course to each their own!

Alexthe

Who knows you could be right, but if you feel that way give me some recommendations send me some references or pictures of bikes that would be better. I was struggling today carrying my Motobecane 53cm on the subway around New Yorkcity . it's very good when you're on the bike riding it and it's carrying all your bags but I could put a large seat bag on a small bike like the Gios , from what I've been able to learn from suggestions.A Holdsworth ?

Mackers

You don't seem to realize it won't be a whole lot smaller if at all.

Seat height won't change, wheel base isn't significantly shorter, so your "small" bike ends up more or less the same size as your "big" bike.

bboy314

Again, frame size won’t have significant bearing on weight or ease of transport. So go for the size that fits you. If I were you I’d look for a relatively lightweight sport tourer frame, and swap the drops out for upright/mustache bars. I just don’t think drop bars are practical for city riding. You could save a little more weight by building it up as a single speed. I used to commute on a Miyata 215ST set up exactly this way. Even had fenders, front basket and 32mm tires and it was still a relatively light and sporty ride, though I didn’t need to bring it up and down stairs much.

I would avoid drop bars, tubular tires, and downtube shifters for commuting, but again that’s speaking for my personal preference. I also wouldn’t want something too flashy and shiny if I needed to regularly lock it up outside in NYC. I think with your budget you could find a road bike that’s high quality but also practical, and tweak it to fit your needs.

As for specific recommendations, I’d start by asking around about shops in the city that deal in used/vintage bikes, as it’s always helpful to be able to test ride the bike know it’s coming from a reliable shop and has been properly gone through. If buying from a private seller via eBay/craigslist etc., be prepared to budget for a tuneup and/or new tires, etc.