Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Classic & Vintage
Reload this Page >

Obscure or rarely seen marques

Search
Notices
Classic & Vintage This forum is to discuss the many aspects of classic and vintage bicycles, including musclebikes, lightweights, middleweights, hi-wheelers, bone-shakers, safety bikes and much more.

Obscure or rarely seen marques

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-01-12, 10:19 PM
  #26  
aixaix 
car guy, recovering
 
aixaix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Mount Vernon, NY
Posts: 1,247

Bikes: Olympia Competizione & Special Piuma, Frejus track circa 1958, Dahon Helios, many others

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Here's one of my Olympias.
Scary good rider. I got it as a frame & built it up with parts I had on hand.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
L1050620.jpg (105.6 KB, 1213 views)
File Type: jpg
L1050608.jpg (108.8 KB, 1231 views)
__________________
Michael Shiffer
EuroMeccanicany.com
aixaix is offline  
Likes For aixaix:
Old 02-01-12, 10:24 PM
  #27  
sailorbenjamin
Senior Member
 
sailorbenjamin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island (an obscure suburb of Connecticut)
Posts: 5,630

Bikes: one of each

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by bikemanbob
"Favorit."
My best friend next door was just showing me pictures of his Favorit. It's still in his parent's basement in Budapest. He went back to see them over the summer and went for some rides on it. He took the pics for me cause he know's I like that kind of stuff.
I've got a Favorit coaster hub on my '42 Roadmster. I stole it from a 70s Free Spirit. It looks a lot like a Fitchel & Sachs Komet.
sailorbenjamin is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:25 PM
  #28  
KonAaron Snake 
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
 
KonAaron Snake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 15,944

Bikes: Two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1254 Post(s)
Liked 346 Times in 175 Posts
Its cousin isn't obscure, but you don't see too many Kogas around here:



Recently sold:



Definitely uncommon in these parts:



Definitely unusual in the states, and not that common in the motherland either:


Last edited by KonAaron Snake; 02-01-12 at 10:29 PM.
KonAaron Snake is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:32 PM
  #29  
VintageRide
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
VintageRide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Burnaby,B.C., Canada
Posts: 616

Bikes: 1970 Gitane TDF; 1985 Norco Magnum GT ; 2013 Rawland Stag ; 1981 Fuji 650b; Early '80's Kuwahara Cascade

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked 156 Times in 55 Posts
I wonder if we could make a list at the beginning of this thread with the various makes as they are posted, with links to any possible outside information such as the history of the builder if available? It would be great if anyone who was looking for or owned something unique to be able to narrow down places to check. Ebay and the internet are helping to uncover more all the time, as we are seeing here. It would have been wonderful to tour Italy and France in the 1960's or '70's looking for all those craftsmen in their shops and see their work. Too bad I was not able to do that, but this is the next best thing.

Last edited by VintageRide; 02-01-12 at 10:39 PM.
VintageRide is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:34 PM
  #30  
sailorbenjamin
Senior Member
 
sailorbenjamin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island (an obscure suburb of Connecticut)
Posts: 5,630

Bikes: one of each

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Oh, Frank just sent me this sweeet Non Pareil. Actually it was mad by Manton & Smith in Chicago. I need to take some good pics of it.

Then I had this Jetter a few years ago. It claimed to be made in Pittsburg but it looked a lot like Japanese. Nice bike for gaspipe;

Last edited by sailorbenjamin; 02-02-12 at 09:57 PM.
sailorbenjamin is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:35 PM
  #31  
sailorbenjamin
Senior Member
 
sailorbenjamin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Rhode Island (an obscure suburb of Connecticut)
Posts: 5,630

Bikes: one of each

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 12 Times in 12 Posts
Originally Posted by VintageRide
I wonder if we could make a list at the beginning of this thread with the various makes as they are posted.
Good Idea.
sailorbenjamin is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:40 PM
  #32  
Poguemahone
Vello Kombi, baby
 
Poguemahone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Je suis ici
Posts: 5,188

Bikes: 1973 Eisentraut; 1970s Richard Sachs; 1978 Alfio Bonnano; 1967 Peugeot PX10

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 80 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Originally Posted by sailorbenjamin
Oh, Frank just sent me this sweeet Non Pareil. Actually it was mad by Manton & Smith in Chicago. I need to take some good pics of it.

Then I had this Jetter a few years ago. It claimed to be made in Pittsburg but it looked a lot like Japanese. Nice bike for gaspipe;
Stunning how similar they are.
May wanna fix the link. I wanna see the Jetter, pipe or no.
__________________
"It's always darkest right before it goes completely black"

Waste your money! Buy my comic book!
Poguemahone is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:41 PM
  #33  
jan nikolajsen 
Mostly Mischief
 
jan nikolajsen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Moab, Utah
Posts: 1,494
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 37 Post(s)
Liked 58 Times in 24 Posts
How about a stack of smaller Dutch builders:

Zieleman
Roover
Springfield
Jabo
Verhoeven
Van Tuyl
Magneet
Bontekoe
Jonkers
Huissoon

..to name a few.
jan nikolajsen is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:42 PM
  #34  
Poguemahone
Vello Kombi, baby
 
Poguemahone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Je suis ici
Posts: 5,188

Bikes: 1973 Eisentraut; 1970s Richard Sachs; 1978 Alfio Bonnano; 1967 Peugeot PX10

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 80 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 14 Times in 13 Posts
Originally Posted by VintageRide
I wonder if we could make a list at the beginning of this thread with the various makes as they are posted, with links to any possible outside information such as the history of the builder if available? It would be great if anyone who was looking for or owned something unique to be able to narrow down places to check. Ebay and the internet are helping to uncover more all the time, as we are seeing here. It would have been wonderful to tour Italy and France in the 1960's or '70's looking for all those craftsmen in their shops and see their work. Too bad I was not able to do that, but this is the next best thing.
You started it (thank you). Just edit post #1 with a list of brands contained herein. Some of these bikes have no real info on the web (ie, my Bonanno).
__________________
"It's always darkest right before it goes completely black"

Waste your money! Buy my comic book!
Poguemahone is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:43 PM
  #35  
Drillium Dude 
Banned.
 
Drillium Dude's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: PAZ
Posts: 12,294
Mentioned: 256 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2588 Post(s)
Liked 4,827 Times in 1,709 Posts
Oh, and I've only seen one other one of these (also referenced here on BF):





Dennis Sparrow custom built in Missoula, Montana. Still haven't been able to lock down many details, although from the serial number I'm pegging its build year around 1979.

DD
Drillium Dude is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 10:46 PM
  #36  
Citoyen du Monde
Senior Member
 
Citoyen du Monde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,973
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 39 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 32 Times in 22 Posts
I have quite a few bikes built by framebuilders that are virtually unknown around here: 4 Marastoni's, 2 Ortelli's, 1 Zanardi, 1 Giotto Cinelli, 1 Fossati, 1 Soncini, 1 Vellystig.

PS: I used to own an Olympia, plus a Grandis, plus a Koga...
Citoyen du Monde is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:00 PM
  #37  
KonAaron Snake 
Fat Guy on a Little Bike
 
KonAaron Snake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 15,944

Bikes: Two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 42 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1254 Post(s)
Liked 346 Times in 175 Posts
I liked CDM's Maasi best!
KonAaron Snake is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:02 PM
  #38  
whatwolf
Unimatrix Zero
 
whatwolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 908
Mentioned: 4 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wow, that Sparrow's headtube decal is out of this world!
whatwolf is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:07 PM
  #39  
gomango
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 259 Times in 144 Posts
I've found love with local (Minneapolis) framebuilders such as Walter Croll, Chris Kvale, Bob Brown, and Curt Goodrich.

I currently have a Bob Brown single speed mtb, a Walter Croll 653 frameset that I am working on currently, two Chris Kvales, and a Curt Goodrich Sportif.

In the case of Chris Kvale, a talented builder that can have a custom built heirloom quality frameset in your hands in about six months for a relatively modest sum.

I have yet to see an example of his work that isn't top shelf, and I find it difficult sometimes to say that for some other brands.

Additionally, Walter Croll built quite a few frames locally twenty years ago.

They ranged from sensational early versions to less desirable copies towards the end of his production years.

My early 653 Walter Croll frameset before I dropped it off for eyelet and canti post additions recently.


Last edited by gomango; 02-01-12 at 11:33 PM.
gomango is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:10 PM
  #40  
gomango
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 259 Times in 144 Posts
Originally Posted by Drillium Dude
Oh, and I've only seen one other one of these (also referenced here on BF):





Dennis Sparrow custom built in Missoula, Montana. Still haven't been able to lock down many details, although from the serial number I'm pegging its build year around 1979.

DD
Still a stunner every time I see her.

Would love to ride that one someday.
gomango is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:19 PM
  #41  
gomango
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: STP
Posts: 14,491
Mentioned: 74 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 821 Post(s)
Liked 259 Times in 144 Posts
Another regional builder that I heard very little of out here in the prairie was John Hollands.

John built a fairly wide range of sport bikes including this one.

I can't believe the long distance ride afforded by this bicycle.

Built from EL and EL-OS, it is nimble when it needs to be, yet no apologies needed for all day rides.

I completed a 500 mile ride to the Canadian border and back on this bicycle, yet no one has heard of him on our club's rides.

Fascinating to me!




Last edited by gomango; 02-01-12 at 11:35 PM. Reason: Adjust that quick release Grady!
gomango is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:29 PM
  #42  
VintageRide
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
VintageRide's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Burnaby,B.C., Canada
Posts: 616

Bikes: 1970 Gitane TDF; 1985 Norco Magnum GT ; 2013 Rawland Stag ; 1981 Fuji 650b; Early '80's Kuwahara Cascade

Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked 156 Times in 55 Posts
As I figure out the country of origin I will note it. If there are no pictures available of other makes mentioned I will make a separate listing.
VintageRide is offline  
Old 02-01-12, 11:34 PM
  #43  
zonatandem
Senior Member
 
zonatandem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tucson, AZ
Posts: 11,016

Bikes: Custom Zona c/f tandem + Scott Plasma single

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 77 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 19 Times in 11 Posts
Being a tandem enthusiast here are a few lesser known tandem brands we have ridden in the past 37 years:
Gottfried (French), Colin Laing (US and England), Follis (French), Assenmacher (US), Berry (US), Borthwick (US) Bruni (US), Counrterpoint (US), Jack Taylor (England), Lippy (US), Osell (US), Velo Schauff (Germany), Dawes (England), Fuji (Japan), Gilmour (US), Ibis (US), Montague (US), Zona (US) . . . among others.
Have owned and extensively ridden following tandems: Follis, Assenmacher, Colin Laing, Co-Motion and Zona.
zonatandem is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 07:01 AM
  #44  
jbchybridrider 
Senior Member
 
jbchybridrider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: adelaide, australia
Posts: 2,802
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 229 Post(s)
Liked 398 Times in 152 Posts
Here's a pic of my Ricardo. This is a commonly seen brand in Australia but most people on this forum would never have heard of it before. The best previous bikes to this they made were of Tange 1, 2 and 900 the model mine replaced was a tange 2 shimano 600 White Lightening.
Ricardo died in the middle of 1990 only Repco went on till the mid 90's but they were importing frames from Giant in there last years. This was because the government had drastically lowered import tariffs allowing cheap imports making own brand bikes not viable anymore, in previous decades there were many aussie branded bikes.
But back to my bike, it was built in the last few months before closing and I like to think they new the end was near and decided to make something a bit special "nameing it Pinnacle" as a last hurrah with Reynolds 531c and Suntour Sprint 9000, nobody even in Australia new of this model untill it was posted on a aussie forum last year by the previous owner that had two of them a his and hers pair sold together, I got the hers one The other cool factor is it was made in my home town of Adelaide and I work just around the corner from the old factory.
In a couple of weeks I'll finish my current project that started with a custom made aussie frame built in the late 70's of no brand name with Columbus lugs SL tubing and Cinelli BB, my first attempt at a full period race bike build but here's a pic of my Ricardo Pinnacle.

jbchybridrider is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 07:14 AM
  #45  
Velognome 
Get off my lawn!
 
Velognome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: The Garden State
Posts: 6,031

Bikes: 1917 Loomis, 1923 Rudge, 1930 Hercules Renown, 1947 Mclean, 1948 JA Holland, 1955 Hetchins, 1957 Carlton Flyer, 1962 Raleigh Sport, 1978&81 Raleigh Gomp GS', 2010 Raliegh Clubman

Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 93 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 99 Times in 49 Posts
Maclean Featherweights, in the que for a complete rehab.

Also a builder of Tandems which may interest Zonatandem
Attached Images
File Type: jpg
P7130157.JPG (71.1 KB, 1649 views)

Last edited by Velognome; 02-02-12 at 07:19 AM.
Velognome is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 07:26 AM
  #46  
AZORCH
Senior Member
 
AZORCH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Liberty, Missouri
Posts: 3,120

Bikes: 1966 Paramount | 1971 Raleigh International | ca. 1970 Bernard Carre | 1989 Waterford Paramount | 2012 Boulder Brevet | 2019 Specialized Diverge

Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 129 Post(s)
Liked 78 Times in 41 Posts
My contributions include this wonderful bike built by Emiliano Freschi:



I also owned a folder by Brillant that I never managed to locate any information on. Less rare but nevertheless still pretty seldom seen (at least stateside) are the Follis and Elswick-Hopper marquees.

Last edited by AZORCH; 10-10-13 at 06:15 AM.
AZORCH is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 07:42 AM
  #47  
rhm
multimodal commuter
 
rhm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: NJ, NYC, LI
Posts: 19,809

Bikes: 1940s Fothergill, 1959 Allegro Special, 1963? Claud Butler Olympic Sprint, Lambert 'Clubman', 1974 Fuji "the Ace", 1976 Holdsworth 650b conversion rando bike, 1983 Trek 720 tourer, 1984 Counterpoint Opus II, 1993 Basso Gap, 2010 Downtube 8h, and...

Mentioned: 584 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1908 Post(s)
Liked 575 Times in 340 Posts
Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen
How about a stack of smaller Dutch builders:

Zieleman
Roover
Springfield
Jabo
Verhoeven
Van Tuyl
Magneet
Bontekoe
Jonkers
Huissoon

..to name a few.
add to that: CERA



There are/were far more obscure English marques than well known ones.
How about Fothergill?
rhm is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 07:43 AM
  #48  
T-Mar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 23,223
Mentioned: 656 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4722 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3,048 Times in 1,883 Posts
Originally Posted by jan nikolajsen
How about a stack of smaller Dutch builders:

Zieleman
Roover
Springfield
Jabo
Verhoeven
Van Tuyl
Magneet
Bontekoe
Jonkers
Huissoon

..to name a few.
I've always considered Magneet to be a mass volume manufacturer. I know during the boom, they were a complete range manufacturer and had fairly wide distribution in the USA.
T-Mar is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 08:02 AM
  #49  
23skidoo
Gone World Hepster
 
23skidoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Lincoln, NE
Posts: 1,211
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 9 Times in 5 Posts
I keep waiting for Belg-Ital Steel to chime in here as he's got several examples in his collection, including UScannini and Norta among others.
23skidoo is offline  
Old 02-02-12, 08:33 AM
  #50  
ericbaker
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 542
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by kaliayev
Appel. One of Americas greatest builders seems to be pretty obscure unfortunately.

is this Will Appelhans?
there was a really cool, track bike that was in last years Copake auction with a somewhat crude handmade headbadge by Will Appelhans, an american builder.
https://copakeauction.auctionflex.com/showlot.ap?co=9768&weid=16039&weiid=5706077&archive=y&lso=lotnumasc&pagenum=3&lang=En


Here is my addition, SW Cotten (Sam Cotten) American actor and bicycle racer from California had a handful of frames imported from renowned english builder William Hurlow in the early 70s before building his own machines in the lter 70s and 80s. This is a Hurlow frame... hand painted letering/pinstiping. https://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y163/k3davis/bikes/SW%20Cotten%20comlete%2072/





ericbaker is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.