nycracer1986

that will be easy!

LesterOfPuppets

I wonder whatever became of the MILLENSTEIN guy...

Wildwood 

'Custom assembly' for components if you already have the frame/fork or are doing a complete change of components on the bike.
'Components swap' if you already own the bike but want to change some bits.

Those are the terms I use. But that means nothing as there is no common understanding of 'custom build', IMHO.


Question:
Why do we admonish people (attack newbies) for punctuation, grammer, spelling? Then smear their character.
Answer:
Too many jerks! Who have nothing positive to add to a thread. But have a high opinion of their irrelevant opinions. Sheesh, on an international discussion forum about bicycles, some worry over apostrophes. Please, come down from the perfect World you live in, we are just cyclists asking questions.







im to enterested in bicicles to kare bout stoopid thangs. But you can trust me with your money. Garenteed!

Wildwood 

I miss TrekMogul and his big purchases of expensive equipment. He certainly supports the industry with his wallet instead of just his comments.
He probably got tired of the attacks and snarky posts from jealous members because he could (seemingly) afford anything he wanted.

smd4

Park? Aren't they...you know...second tier? It's a wonder you didn't order the Campy tool set.

Anyway, looking forward to seeing the build. I do hope you'll post pics along the way.

smd4

Maybe because someone else's character was smeared first.

Jeeze, I admitted it was low (and I mean really low) hanging fruit.

smd4

So that's why people buy bikes! To support the industry!

Thank you for clearing that up.

Wildwood 

Yes, if one is in the market for a bicycle, buying custom built framesets and/or components from USA builders supports the local economy and small frame builders. And we get whatever we want, within reason.

Co-Motion, Calfee, Tallerico, Macalu. And a dozen or so European vintage frames, assembled by myself.

Modifications to standard geometry for captain with multiple sized stokers

Relaxed headtube angle off the standard geometry - custom assembly from the builder (on the initial iiteration). Two subsequent rebuilds.

Fully custom frameset from Columbus steel - lugged.

American made frame - both tubes & welder. However, not a custom frame.

That's how we support the Made in America part of the industry. And reap the other benefits.
YMMV

smd4

One participates in one's hobby by buying things within that hobby. That it supports the local economy is secondary.

nycracer1986

damn really? There’s that inner “noob” in me I guess haha. Thanks I’ll post some photos

Bald Paul

Isn't this the guy? I could be mistaken.

nycracer1986

im here eating popcorn!

smd4

Goodie for you.

I've got a few "Murican made bolts on my predominately Italian/Japanese bike. But I definitely didn't buy them because of their country of origin.

Wildwood 

... to you.

I want a vibrant US cycling scene with small frame builders and component manufacturers. I do not want a bicycle like everyone else rides. Not because mine are inherently better, but they reflect my preferences when pedaling. Oh yeah, with custom paint. I'm sure your Trek/Spec/Giant pleases you as much.


Ghosted

Wildwood 

That's not TrekMogul, he wasn't young - and definitely had more hair. Some might say, A few Wild Hairs.

smd4

Sorry, not my responsibility to ensure "a vibrant US cycling scene." If American builders and parts manufacturers are competitive, that problem will take care of itself. You know, that whole "free market" thing so many of us pay lip service to.

Never owned a Trek, or a Specialized, or a Giant. Have yet to see another bike exactly like mine. But thanks for playing.

squirtdad

agree, your should select a custom frame builder for their knowledge, judgement and how the way they build matches your vision. i.e if you want a fillet brazed frame, don't select some one who just does tig.

many high end frame makers do not get into tube details, instead choosing to build what works for you

my experience worked like this
start I sent email with what i was thinking including threaded steerer then
1) detail bike measurements 2) detail me measurements (need a friend to help) 3) fill in 20 or so questions, some not what you would think
4) talk to builder about options and thinks like disc or caliper, braze ons, tire size (can go bigger with fillet brazed vs lug)
5) builder sent a design with note about which model he recommends and details like "made top tube touch shorter and go for 110 stem for better downhill stability"
6) Another quick talk
7) build the frame

for reference this was dave kirk Kirk Frameworks | Custom Bicycles

a bit to my surprise he suggested for me a "racier" model from his list of models Models and Accessories | Kirk Frameworks

as to tubes The original JKS is built with oversized main tubes, Kirk by Reynolds stays and blades, and lugs by Llewellyn of Australia and The JK Special bikes are built with a proprietary mix of tubes (chainstays, seat stays, and fork blades) made to my specifications by Reynolds of England as well as Reynolds 953 and 853

as to cost a frame like this is less than say a Specialized tarmac frame

Wildwood 

Thanks for playing? You are welcome. Maybe you will wake from the forest to accept another opinion.

smd4

Very punny!

Well, maybe. But certainly not yours at the moment.

indyfabz

I was wondering about him a while back.

The way horded things, I doubt he suffered any parts shortages during the pandemic.

Wildwood 

That is spelled phunny.
But thanks phor playing.

indyfabz

Do you know what the "mascot's" real name is?

No cheating!

smd4

When one makes a pun, a common ridicule is to say it's "punny." Which is a pun in and of itself.

Get it? (Guessing no)

mpetry912 

Wasn't it BIBENDUM or something ? I did not google it

/markp

pdlamb

And a tool set? May as well use a Craftsman beam torque wrench. What ever happened to a custom tool set mix -- Hozan, DT Swiss, Abbey, Wera, etc?