your pet peeves on cycling
07-28-11, 11:44 AM
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07-28-11, 12:52 PM
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I was hunting for the harvey levin one, but couldn't find it. I'd say my peeve is anyone without common sense though, that includes, motorists, pedestrians, and other cyclists.. not exactly hard for both the jogger and the cyclist to move over a little, or for a car to stay away from the inside line during this.
07-28-11, 01:04 PM
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Sometimes while driving I judge how people drive while imagining cyclists in the shoulder/edge of lane at all times. And sometimes I find myself thinking "I'm going to teach these idiots to consider cyclists when I ride in tomorrow"... then I think "Wait, I'm not a scumbag"... and try to think about how it was before I ever started cycling. I NEVER thought about cyclists and never knew all the little nuances we consider on a consistent basis.
07-28-11, 03:30 PM
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Sometimes while driving I judge how people drive while imagining cyclists in the shoulder/edge of lane at all times. And sometimes I find myself thinking "I'm going to teach these idiots to consider cyclists when I ride in tomorrow"... then I think "Wait, I'm not a scumbag"... and try to think about how it was before I ever started cycling. I NEVER thought about cyclists and never knew all the little nuances we consider on a consistent basis.
I have spent so much time working in jobs where my continued survival depended on a level of situational awareness most people can't comprehend, much less attain (I do note that it takes training and guidance to get there), I forget most people in this country go through their lives with their eyes tightly closed from cradle to grave. They don't notice, and if they do, they don't even know how to process the information correctly. They just use their eyes to keep from bumping into things and to watch Internet pr0n.
Jbtute, I have archived your comments on my computer. Pray you never get into legal trouble, because I will happily send that post to the prosecutor as evidence of premeditation. "Two close calls? Decided you weren't going to give way?" So because YOU decided you were going to draw a line in the sand, this gives you the RIGHT to assault people without warning? Try again.
Are you a lawyer or a banker?
07-28-11, 06:41 PM
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Overly aggressive group riders on the multi-use paths. They come up behind you shouting, fly past kids and families, and have this attitude that the world should move out of their way. Seriously, if they need to train that hard, they should get on the road with the cars and quit being wusses.
07-28-11, 07:35 PM
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In either event these are malum prohibitum issues and would not necessarily determine the outcome of a civil suit regarding a ped/ped collision. If they were determinative the section specifically creating a duty of care in the vehicle driver is likely the "winner". Cyclists hits runner on shoulder of road... how do you think that law suit turns out? I'll take the runner every time.
Another example of a conflicting provision:
41-6a 1105 "A person operating a bicycle or a moped on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as near as practicable to the right-hand edge of the roadway except when...reasonably necessary to avoid...pedestrians."
41-6a 1105 "A person operating a bicycle or a moped on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall ride as near as practicable to the right-hand edge of the roadway except when...reasonably necessary to avoid...pedestrians."
(Note that, as a rider or a driver, I move around pedestrians and runners. I don't care if they are in the road.)
The person who has the easiest means of moving out of the way generally has the responsibility to do so. If I'm sailing a sailboat I have a right of way over a power boat, but yield right of way to a row boat, who in turn yields the right of way to a swimmer. Cars generally go around bikers who should similarly go around runners. A seemingly simple concept that has been part of transportation norms for thousands of years seemingly has not been picked up by some cyclists. I'm not sure why.
And the row boat is the "give way" vessel, not the sail boat!
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07-28-11, 08:15 PM
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I have a misereable neck and have been back into cycling for 6 years or so. My core is so much stronger now so I can actually ride and look up at the same time. Anyhow..... I always remember coming accross a runner on a side road in Vermont most of the way through a 28 mile ride home. Very few cars and no real reason for him to be fearfull of an oncoming cyclist, but little did he know that I was tired and my neck hurt and that I was only looking at the 10-20 feet ahead. Two seperate times he needed to jump off the road and he was cussing up a storm each time. All I could say was "my bad". Don't judge, there are often reasons not understood. Stepping off the road while running does not seem to be asking too much. I used to run a lot so I've some empathy.
07-29-11, 04:29 AM
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Cyclists who don't move over for runners. Yes, runners run against traffic often in the same area of the shoulder as a bike rides in. If you're riding a bike, move over. Running is harder than cycling and moving over takes almost no effort on the part of the biker. I will knock you off your bike if I'm running and we play "chicken". For the life of me I can't figure out why cyclists haven't figured this out.
Damn, should have read the rest of the thread. Late to the party but the sentiment remains unchanged. A lawyer..
Run your pansy ass over to Warren Jeffs. I hear he needs a new one.
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07-29-11, 09:14 AM
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07-29-11, 11:57 PM
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Mine are simple:
1. People of any age riding at night without lights
2. When my wife rides down the center lane not paying attention to her surroundings and blocking traffic.
3. People who hog the bike rack by parking sideways.
4. Bikes without kickstands. Yes I get you have a $2000 road bike but why lean that same bike against the bricks and scratch the paint? Your nor Lane armstrong, your local club ride isn't the TDF, you can live with the extra pound of a kickstand. (yes I understand many won't agree with this)
1. People of any age riding at night without lights
2. When my wife rides down the center lane not paying attention to her surroundings and blocking traffic.
3. People who hog the bike rack by parking sideways.
4. Bikes without kickstands. Yes I get you have a $2000 road bike but why lean that same bike against the bricks and scratch the paint? Your nor Lane armstrong, your local club ride isn't the TDF, you can live with the extra pound of a kickstand. (yes I understand many won't agree with this)
07-30-11, 12:51 AM
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Ok all. I did get some taste of my own medicine back at me for that one quote i said of saying how i hate people who walk their bikes.
I was one of them the otherday. But my bike was broken. Middle chain ring broke while riding . And i walked my bike to a safe area to fix it. so sorry to all the bike walkers out there.
I was one of them the otherday. But my bike was broken. Middle chain ring broke while riding . And i walked my bike to a safe area to fix it. so sorry to all the bike walkers out there.
07-30-11, 06:31 AM
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Just about the only pet peeve that I have is ninja salmon.
07-30-11, 10:06 AM
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Ok all. I did get some taste of my own medicine back at me for that one quote i said of saying how i hate people who walk their bikes.
I was one of them the otherday. But my bike was broken. Middle chain ring broke while riding . And i walked my bike to a safe area to fix it. so sorry to all the bike walkers out there.
I was one of them the otherday. But my bike was broken. Middle chain ring broke while riding . And i walked my bike to a safe area to fix it. so sorry to all the bike walkers out there.
07-30-11, 10:07 AM
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I'm trying to figure out how you break the middle chain ring. I slammed my large chainring down on a log before which is one reason I got rid of it and replaced it with a bashguard. But how do you smash the middle one? Weird shaped rock?
07-30-11, 12:13 PM
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4. Bikes without kickstands. Yes I get you have a $2000 road bike but why lean that same bike against the bricks and scratch the paint? Your nor Lane armstrong, your local club ride isn't the TDF, you can live with the extra pound of a kickstand. (yes I understand many won't agree with this)
07-30-11, 02:59 PM
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pedestrians walking their dogs, while wearing an ipod.
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07-30-11, 07:11 PM
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Tell us your pet peeves on cycling. While as being a cyclist or seeing others out there. or any weird laws in your area can be one. or how people behave.
Here are my lists
- people (non cyclists) but the people who just ride a bike sometimes who walk their bikes down the street for no reason, when u can ride and get where u need to faster
- when non cyclists - more so adults who ride their department store bike on wrong side of the road when u are riding there and u have to move over
- motorists who do know how to drive past a cyclist, instead follow behind you forever
- traffic lights and stop signs - in general really stupid to stop when there no traffic
- when new roads or any hwy etc is repaved but the shoulder where u ride your bike is never done and left as it was before
- running out of water
- not seeing any hot girls riding their bikes ever , lol
-bells on a bike, when u don't need a bell unless on a city bike path.
- people who do not move out of the way on a bike path when u are coming to them even after they know u are there
so those are some of mine, love to hear your lists
Here are my lists
- people (non cyclists) but the people who just ride a bike sometimes who walk their bikes down the street for no reason, when u can ride and get where u need to faster
- when non cyclists - more so adults who ride their department store bike on wrong side of the road when u are riding there and u have to move over
- motorists who do know how to drive past a cyclist, instead follow behind you forever
- traffic lights and stop signs - in general really stupid to stop when there no traffic
- when new roads or any hwy etc is repaved but the shoulder where u ride your bike is never done and left as it was before
- running out of water
- not seeing any hot girls riding their bikes ever , lol
-bells on a bike, when u don't need a bell unless on a city bike path.
- people who do not move out of the way on a bike path when u are coming to them even after they know u are there
so those are some of mine, love to hear your lists
Ninja cyclists
Salmon cyclists in general
Gutter bunnies/curb huggers
Red light runners
Bike lanes that are in the door zone
Narrow shoulders re-designated as bike lanes
Bike lanes that are "shoe horned" into roads as an afterthought/to appease the cycling community
Drivers who honk when there is no reason to honk
Drivers who buzz cyclists
Drivers who think that cyclists don't belong on the road
07-30-11, 07:13 PM
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Cyclists who don't move over for runners. Yes, runners run against traffic often in the same area of the shoulder as a bike rides in. If you're riding a bike, move over. Running is harder than cycling and moving over takes almost no effort on the part of the biker. I will knock you off your bike if I'm running and we play "chicken". For the life of me I can't figure out why cyclists haven't figured this out.
Bikers who ride two abreast on narrow roads. Gives us all a bad name and may get you killed.
Cars that try to zip in front of you just to turn right and make you swerve around them.
Road Construction signs that force you out into traffic. They could place the signs a foot or two further out and give us room to go around them to the shoulder side. Would be safer for everyone.
Bikers who ride two abreast on narrow roads. Gives us all a bad name and may get you killed.
Cars that try to zip in front of you just to turn right and make you swerve around them.
Road Construction signs that force you out into traffic. They could place the signs a foot or two further out and give us room to go around them to the shoulder side. Would be safer for everyone.
07-30-11, 07:23 PM
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If I see someone who is walking and pushing a bike I'll stop and see if they need help. Just today I was able to help a fellow cyclist inflate their wheel with my spare CO2 cart.