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Old 03-22-20, 07:43 PM
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Campagnolo Zonda, upgrade from stock wheels?

Thinking of changing out the wheelset on my 2016 Domane. However, I don't want to break the bank. The campagnolo zonda seem affordable. Will these be a good upgrade from the stock Bontrager TLR wheels? I am a fitness rider, not doing centuries, races, group rides, etc.
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I upgraded stock wheels to Zonda's late last year. Well worth the price in my opinion. They have been discussed here and other forums and are highly regarded for the price. probikekitusa.com has them on sale now for $345 and change, free shipping. I do not remember how the sale goes on.
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Assuming you order the Shimano wheel for Shimano type cassettes? Been looking at these wheels as well.
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I have several sets of Zondas and I can't say enough good things about them. They're not just great wheels for the money, they're great wheels.
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I will chime in and say that they are solid dependable wheels and for the price, heck why not? to save 300 or more grams for the pair, you will spend 1000s more dollars/Euros. Hubs are very smooth, they stay in true and you also have the tri spoke bling.
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Zondas are nice wheels for the price. But didn't they use to offer a 2-way (Tubeless ready) option? Can't seem to be found any more.
OP: are you doing the rim or disc version?
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Zondas were never 2 way fit. I have them on both of my bikes. Great wheels.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Zondas are nice wheels for the price. But didn't they use to offer a 2-way (Tubeless ready) option? Can't seem to be found any more.
OP: are you doing the rim or disc version?
Yes, Zondas were previously available as 2-way fit.
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The rims do not have exposed spoke holes and look to be tubless ready but I think they are not specified as this. So simply use a tubelss conversion kit. I think that the 2 way wheels were one model up and sold in the $750 range.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Yes, Zondas were previously available as 2-way fit.
Thought so..
curious it's hard to find this in Campy wheel descriptions until you get to Shamal level.
OTOH, the budget Fulcrums seem to come this way.. pretty odd:

https://www.fulcrumwheels.com/en/tec...fit-ready-road
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS
Zondas were never 2 way fit. I have them on both of my bikes. Great wheels.
However, the question is why they got rid of these in the lineup?
https://www.wiggle.com/campagnolo-zo...cher-wheelset/
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Thought so..
curious it's hard to find this in Campy wheel descriptions until you get to Shamal level.
I think you can get Shamal and Scirocco as 2-way fit.
OTOH, the budget Fulcrums seem to come this way.. pretty odd:
I think those are "2-Way Fit Ready." Fulcrum lists other wheels as "2-Way Fit." (The difference might be whether rim tape is required?)
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Originally Posted by Fox Farm
The rims do not have exposed spoke holes and look to be tubless ready but I think they are not specified as this. So simply use a tubelss conversion kit. I think that the 2 way wheels were one model up and sold in the $750 range.
I spoke to someone at Campy a few years ago about the difference between 2-way fit and regular wheels. He said non 2-way fit wheels were not sealed at the weld, and the rim profile was not designed for tubeless. Not surprisingly, he was adamant about not running their regular wheels tubeless.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
I spoke to someone at Campy a few years ago about the difference between 2-way fit and regular wheels. He said non 2-way fit wheels were not sealed at the weld, and the rim profile was not designed for tubeless. Not surprisingly, he was adamant about not running their regular wheels tubeless.
Interesting, but I guess it makes sense. It is pretty odd though that seemingly Campy/Fulcrum are only now marketing the disc brake wheelsets as coming with 2-way fit for the consumer price-point level wheelsets (Scirocco and FR4-7s). Nothing for rim brake options. And for whatever reason, you can't seemingly even get a Fulcrum Racing 3 (Zonda equivalent) disc brake wheelset with 2-way. I can't see how this makes sense for them.
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
And for whatever reason, you can't seemingly even get a Fulcrum Racing 3 (Zonda equivalent) disc brake wheelset with 2-way. I can't see how this makes sense for them.
They're listed on the Fulcrum website, and the ProBikeKit website indicates they're in stock.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
They're listed on the Fulcrum website, and the ProBikeKit website indicates they're in stock.
Indeed you're correct, they can be found on the Fulcrum website. I had no luck on the PBK site though, only 2 hits for the rim brake version (both not 2-way). A google shopping return on Fulcrum Racing 3 DB returns very little that isn't almost double the cost of Zonda or FR3s for rim brakes.

OTOH, there is this on PBK's site.. Zonda disc wheelset, but then there's no 2-way fit spec shown? Are Zonda's and FR3s supposed to be identical?
https://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-w...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
Indeed you're correct, they can be found on the Fulcrum website. I had no luck on the PBK site though, only 2 hits for the rim brake version (both not 2-way). A google shopping return on Fulcrum Racing 3 DB returns very little that isn't almost double the cost of Zonda or FR3s for rim brakes.
https://www.probikekit.com/bicycle-w.../12492575.html

OTOH, there is this on PBK's site.. Zonda disc wheelset, but then there's no 2-way fit spec shown? Are Zonda's and FR3s supposed to be identical?
I had Zondas, Racing 3, and Racing 3 2-way -- they were basically the same wheels, but not identical.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Must have missed this for the lack of photo.. But it gets weirder.. They also have a Shamal disc.. but only about $200 more. Shamals and Zondas used to be separated by about $600-700.

Anyway.. don't know if the OP, who has a TL wheel, wants to replace with a TL wheel or not; and/or if he has disc or rim brakes. Advice could vary though it seems on what he/she needs.
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Must have missed this for the lack of photo.. But it gets weirder.. They also have a Shamal disc.. but only about $200 more. Shamals and Zondas used to be separated by about $600-700.

Anyway.. don't know if the OP, who has a TL wheel, wants to replace with a TL wheel or not; and/or if he has disc or rim brakes. Advice could vary though it seems on what he/she needs.
What is a TL wheel? I have Rim brakes. LBS also suggested Bontrager Paradigm Comp as an alternative.
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Originally Posted by yashinon
What is a TL wheel? I have Rim brakes. LBS also suggested Bontrager Paradigm Comp as an alternative.
TL = Tubeless. Your OP indicated the wheels you currently have that you're thinking of replacing are also TL (TLR).. however, we don't know if you are currently actually running your tires tubeless or if you're using tubes.

EDIT: I'm going to guess you aren't running a tubeless setup. And, if you have no desire to do so, the Zondas (eg at probikeit prices) are a great choice. The Paradigms your LBS is offering are about 200 grams heavier I think, and unless there's some sorta deal, these sell for about $600 MSRP (about 50% more than the Zondas do).

One alternative.. I think about the same weight as Zondas and also able to go tubeless if you wanted to, are the "Ventus" option at:
https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/pwb-...t-package.html

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Originally Posted by Sy Reene
TL = Tubeless. Your OP indicated the wheels you currently have that you're thinking of replacing are also TL (TLR).. however, we don't know if you are currently actually running your tires tubeless or if you're using tubes.

EDIT: I'm going to guess you aren't running a tubeless setup. And, if you have no desire to do so, the Zondas (eg at probikeit prices) are a great choice. The Paradigms your LBS is offering are about 200 grams heavier I think, and unless there's some sorta deal, these sell for about $600 MSRP (about 50% more than the Zondas do).

One alternative.. I think about the same weight as Zondas and also able to go tubeless if you wanted to, are the "Ventus" option at:
https://www.prowheelbuilder.com/pwb-...t-package.html
Ahh....yes I am NOT running tubeless. I saw a pair or Paradigms on that "auction" site, new pull at a very good price. It is worth buying from someone who pulled them off a bike?
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I am leaning toward the Paradigm Comp, although wheels at Prowheelbuilder look interesting.
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