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Rim choice for mid 80s Colnago Nuovo Mexico

Old 04-26-18, 02:40 PM
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Rim choice for mid 80s Colnago Nuovo Mexico

hello all,
trying to bring this bike to its original glory...most components are Campy C-Record but the rims are modern "v-style" (yuk). I'd like a more classic rim in silver/chrome but would like something that looks good and is period correct. Some of the vintage Campy rims look real nice, but I hear they can be difficult to work with (changing flats...) I really don't know my way around rim choices...
Any recommendations?
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Absolutely Ambrosio. Does the down tube have 2 or 4 crimps?
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Judging by the changing flats comment I’d assume you’re looking for clinchers? If interested in tubulars, Ambrosio Nemesis could fit the bill. I have them on my ‘83 Nuovo Mexico and love ‘em. Hard ano rather than polished, though. Rider weight, riding conditions, desired rim weight/durability, etc. will also help in pointing to an appropriate choice.

Got a pic of the bike??

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2 crimps on TT and 2 crimps DT, Serroni Red...all Campy C-Chorus w/ Cobalto brakes.
I don't think I can download pix because of my "status"...i'm not sure about this, but I remember trying to upload pix unsuccessfully...
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Originally Posted by vascoboy View Post
2 crimps on TT and 2 crimps DT, Serroni Red...all Campy C-Chorus w/ Cobalto brakes.
I don't think I can download pix because of my "status"...i'm not sure about this, but I remember trying to upload pix unsuccessfully...
You have 68 posts - you should be able to upload pics without a problem, at least as regards "status".

I have a similar bike to yours and I run 90s Mavic Open Sports on it. In fact, most of my wheels have vintage Campy hubs and modern-ish late-90s Mavic rims (Open Pro, Open 4CD, MA3) with matte silver finish and machined sidewalls. I made the switch because these rims allow me to run vintage pads and still have impressive stopping power.

Just a thought...

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Originally Posted by vascoboy View Post
2 crimps on TT and 2 crimps DT, Serroni Red...all Campy C-Chorus w/ Cobalto brakes.
I don't think I can download pix because of my "status"...i'm not sure about this, but I remember trying to upload pix unsuccessfully...
Thanks for reply.
Yours is a 1. gen. '82-'83 typ N.Mexico. Originally, they were fitted with Ambrosio Synthesis rim (with bronze extra Colnago decals) at the factory. If you can not wait for such a show, Ambrosio Montreal has also accepted. This is very common. The later 4 crimpes N. Mexico used Ambrosio Metamorphosis (with white Colnago Corse plus decals). Metamorphosis was the top rim of Ambrosio until 1990. Nemesis came after 1990.
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H+Sons tb14 rims are not period correct, but look appropriate. They are very high quality and easy to build into round, true wheels.

https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...s.php?id=42964
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I found some silver Mavic SUP rims. Welded seams. Not ancient, but they look nice.
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thanks, that's good info! i thought it was closer to 84-85...which is not that far off i know...
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I run tubulars on mine and they are Mavic GL 330's
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These are the ones you want - (Tubulars)
Mavic Monthlery
Mavic GP4 (red label)
Ambrosio Synthesis
Ambrosio Montreal
Campagnolo Omega Strada Hardox

Please don't put clinchers on that bike. It's a Colnago. Italian bikes are best with tubular tires.

If you're worried about flats, then buy Continental Sprinter Gatorskins. If you don't want to use glue, Tufo has tape. The hassle of tubulars is far overstated compared to the benefits in ride quality and safety.
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There were the two original Ambrosios ...



... and the overbranded Colnago (one ealier non eyelet version)


Earlier Synthesis decal but with eyelets from a Colnago ( Here can you see the relationship between the Colnago and the Synthesis sticker. )

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Originally Posted by kunsunoke View Post
Please don't put clinchers on that bike. It's a Colnago. Italian bikes are best with tubular tires.
If you're worried about flats, then buy Continental Sprinter Gatorskins. If you don't want to use glue, Tufo has tape. The hassle of tubulars is far overstated compared to the benefits in ride quality and safety.
Thanks, Kunsunoke. The more I think about this, the more I'm inclined to go with Tubulars for this bike...I'm going to take your advice here
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Hi,

I ended up in this interesting thread Because Iím choosing the right rims for my Colnago Nuovo Mexico from 83/84 (1 crimp per side on TT, 2 crimps per side on the DT).

I would like to mount Ambrosio rims but Iím struggling about the following models:

- Ambrosio Metamorphosis (green and blue label)
- Ambrosio Synthesis (green and blue label)
- Ambrosio Synthesis (Gold label)

Which is/are the most appropriate given the years of the bike?

Many thanks
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Hi,

I ended up in this interesting thread Because Iím choosing the right rims for my Colnago Nuovo Mexico from 83/84 (1 crimp per side on TT, 2 crimps per side on the DT).

I would like to mount Ambrosio rims but Iím struggling about the following models:

- Ambrosio Metamorphosis (green and blue label)
- Ambrosio Synthesis (green and blue label)
- Ambrosio Synthesis (Gold label)

Which is/are the most appropriate given the years of the bike?

Many thanks
Hi,
it is a pleasure to read that there is an enthusiastic member who takes Period Correction so seriously.
So all of a sudden I can tell you that the great Francesco Moser on the '84 Giro d'Italia had already used the blue-green labeled metamorphosis. If you choose a blue-green, I recommend metamorphosis, because in the blue-green era it was already the best of the company. For '83, I have to look in my archive If I know something, I'll sign up.
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Originally Posted by Old Fireleg View Post
Hi,
it is a pleasure to read that there is an enthusiastic member who takes Period Correction so seriously.
So all of a sudden I can tell you that the great Francesco Moser on the '84 Giro d'Italia had already used the blue-green labeled metamorphosis. If you choose a blue-green, I recommend metamorphosis, because in the blue-green era it was already the best of the company. For '83, I have to look in my archive If I know something, I'll sign up.
Many thanks, very helpful.

Unfortunately I do not know which is the exact year of the bike. I presume 1983 or 1984 for the bottom brake and the sloping fork crown.
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Hi,

at the end I went for the Ambrosio Metamorphosis after being able to date my bike (1984). Any recommendations for the spokes?
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@GIS IIRC DT and Wheelsmith were available at that time. I preferred DT Champion DB's.
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at the end I went for the Ambrosio Metamorphosis after being able to date my bike (1984). Any recommendations for the spokes?
I believe that ACI Alpina spokes were originally used for factory assembly, as is usually the case with all Italian manufacturers and workshops. If you don't get it, the next step is Sapim, then DT Swiss. (I would definitely prefer European brands)
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Yes, Alpina were the typical OEM spokes for most Italian bikes. They were pretty rare stateside, though not impossible to get. DT would have been the typical choice of that time. Spring the extra $ for 14/15 double butted. It's worth it.
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My LBS got some ACI Alpina NOS spokes....I will definitely go for those ones. I will try to post some pic once the job is done . Thanks again for helping
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My LBS got some ACI Alpina NOS spokes....I will definitely go for those ones. I will try to post some pic once the job is done . Thanks again for helping
Hi,

here is a wonderful spoke length calculator site, with many, many vintage hubs and rims (inclusive Metamorphosis and Campa NR/SR hubs for you)
https://leonard.io/edd/

This way you can accurately calculate the spokes length you need for your order or purchase
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