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Grand Prix 5000 Tubeless

Old 08-08-19, 12:26 PM
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The pair I bought via eBay for $115 arrived yesterday. I rushed to the LBS for some sealant and a Stan's NoTubes injector, then dusted off the tubeless accessories that came with my Bontrager Paradigm Comp TLR wheels to get the install going. It took me an eternity to get a tire on the front rim! "Tight" would be an understatement - it turned into a two person, three tire lever job. Hopefully there's never a situation where I have an issue on the road, because I doubt I'll be able to get the tire off, put a tube in and put it back together again.

I was able to use a floor pump to inflate the tire without sealant, but air did leak from the valve stem. The leak stopped after adding sealant, bouncing and spinning the wheel around for a little while. It held air overnight and got me to work this morning.

At this point I feel like there's no going back to tubes simply because it would be such a pain. Tonight I'll work on the rear wheel and tomorrow I'll give my fingers a rest. Has anyone else put these on Bontrager TLR wheels?

Update: Rear tire mounting went much easier. Now I'm trying to correct slight wobbles in the front.

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Old 08-09-19, 06:59 AM
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As an FYI, Sigma currently has GP5000 TLs at $51/ea - https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Con...less-Tyre/KJ6X

Shipping isn't free unless you spend more than $200, but even with shipping this is a good price.
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I've now got about 1,500 miles on the tires with no problems. I babied them for the first couple hundred miles due to my experience with the previous set (and some GP4000SIIs) getting damaged, avoiding a couple of several roads which have some sharp gravel and which are prone to road debris. I don't worry about it now. I've also ridden a few miles of dirt. So far so good, which probably means I'll have an issue tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
As an FYI, Sigma currently has GP5000 TLs at $51/ea - https://www.sigmasports.com/item/Con...less-Tyre/KJ6X

Shipping isn't free unless you spend more than $200, but even with shipping this is a good price.
Thanks, bought a 28 and 32!
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Old 08-12-19, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Skaughtto View Post
The pair I bought via eBay for $115 arrived yesterday. I rushed to the LBS for some sealant and a Stan's NoTubes injector, then dusted off the tubeless accessories that came with my Bontrager Paradigm Comp TLR wheels to get the install going. It took me an eternity to get a tire on the front rim! "Tight" would be an understatement - it turned into a two person, three tire lever job. Hopefully there's never a situation where I have an issue on the road, because I doubt I'll be able to get the tire off, put a tube in and put it back together again.

I was able to use a floor pump to inflate the tire without sealant, but air did leak from the valve stem. The leak stopped after adding sealant, bouncing and spinning the wheel around for a little while. It held air overnight and got me to work this morning.

At this point I feel like there's no going back to tubes simply because it would be such a pain. Tonight I'll work on the rear wheel and tomorrow I'll give my fingers a rest. Has anyone else put these on Bontrager TLR wheels?

Update: Rear tire mounting went much easier. Now I'm trying to correct slight wobbles in the front.
I had exactly the same difficulty as you when mounting these tyres on my DT Swiss P1800 32 Spline wheelsets. Used 2 tire lever and still couldn't it. I gave up and just asked my LBS to install them for me.

I'm also worried that I'd have problem re-installing the tyres on the road. I have also seen a couple of videos about this issue on Youtube.

On my first flat, I will just call my wife to pick me up , and I will replace them with the tubes version.

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Originally Posted by richard.susanto View Post
I had exactly the same difficulty as you when mounting these tyres on my DT Swiss P1800 32 Spline wheelsets. Used 2 tire lever and still couldn't it. I gave up and just asked my LBS to install them for me.

I'm also worried that I'd have problem re-installing the tyres on the road. I have also seen a couple of videos about this issue on Youtube.

On my first flat, I will just call my wife to pick me up , and I will replace them with the tubes version.

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Dont worry about it and donít go back to tubes! Just kidding use whatís best for you.

i will say that although I had a hard time putting these tires on initially, they do stretch and Iíve had no issues putting them back on when I last removed them to change out valves.
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Old 08-13-19, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CasualInSoCal View Post
So do these Grand Prix 5000 Tubeless tires work with the Mavic UST system? Or are they different?
They work great, a little tight struggle to mount. But inflated like a charm and ride great.

I put 2500miles or so on the Yksion Pro tires that came with the Kysrium Pro UST set. Really impressed and happy by them. So much so that got the same Yksion Elevenstorm for the Shimano 6700 TLR wheels on my wife's bike.

Previously really liked GP4000's... so once I saw 5000TL's were available and I was due for tires. I gave them a try. Been great, I figure I have about 500mi on them. Not riding my fast roadie as much as my allroad this season *shrug* so gonna be a minute before I wear them out.

I want to try Vittoria next. I have a set of 4C G2.0 MTB tires from my local shop recently and they are amazing for traction. And I hear nothing but good about the road variant as well.

I'd say all 3 tires are good. Across Mavic UST and Shimano TLR.

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Old 08-13-19, 02:01 PM
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Is anyone getting the dreaded sidewall tear on these tires?
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Old 08-14-19, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Princess_Allez View Post
Is anyone getting the dreaded sidewall tear on these tires?
Nope! Other than throwing cords which Iíve mentioned in the past and seems to have now subsided
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Old 08-14-19, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Princess_Allez View Post
Is anyone getting the dreaded sidewall tear on these tires?
One of my riding buddies took a small sidewall tear that wouldn't quite seal up with Stan's (I've told him to go Orange and that Stan's is a crapshoot, at best, on road tires, but I digress...) and has decided to run a tube in that tire for the rest of its life.
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Old 08-21-19, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
One of my riding buddies took a small sidewall tear that wouldn't quite seal up with Stan's (I've told him to go Orange and that Stan's is a crapshoot, at best, on road tires, but I digress...) and has decided to run a tube in that tire for the rest of its life.
Doesn't that defeat the point of having a TL tire I gave up on Continental after having a large sidewall tear on the gp4ks2. I enjoyed them for the minimal amount of miles they provided, but not enough to tempt fate again. I haven't had any experience with TL sealant outside of Mavic's stuff, but it seems to plug up goat heads really well. It also strikes me as odd that their sealant is sold out nearly everywhere, and the origin of manufacture is some random nation.
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Old 08-22-19, 01:17 PM
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I doubt Mavic's sealant is "sold out" anywhere. Nobody stocks it because there are several more popular options. I don't know of anyone intentionally trying to buy Mavic sealant.
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I doubt Mavic's sealant is "sold out" anywhere. Nobody stocks it because there are several more popular options. I don't know of anyone intentionally trying to buy Mavic sealant.
That makes sense. I trust that Mavic designs their products to work well with one another. If I ever feel that their sealant isn't working to my expectations, I'll venture out.
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Originally Posted by Princess_Allez View Post
That makes sense. I trust that Mavic designs their products to work well with one another. If I ever feel that their sealant isn't working to my expectations, I'll venture out.
I have used Orange and was relatively happy with it and it would seal large holes rapidly. The local bike shop told me to switch to Finish Line because it would last a whole lot longer. I was unaware that the other would dry up in the tire after several months.

I tried the Finish Line sealant and it works every bit as good as the Orange. Plus it is latex fee and ammonia free and is non-toxic though I don't think it tastes as good as a beer.
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Itís funny, I *****ed like crazy elsewhere in this thread. The tires (one of the earlier batches) were throwing cords like crazy. The sealant would dry out and Iíd have a flat ( maybe not the tireís fault but no issues with others). But still, here I am with 2700 plus miles (and woke up to a flat, added some Sealant and now all good again), and these things are still going strong.

maybe I was wrong is all Iím sayin...
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I now want to know what you ****ed like crazy...
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I now want to know what you ****ed like crazy...
Yeah surprised it was edited! B**ch*d like crazy. Synonym for ďcomplainedĒ lol
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I had my first ride on a set yesterday. They felt really smooth. Rolled nicely on the descents.
They have something that might be considered a negative. The traction is so good that the bike moves around on the road a bit due to changes in the road surface picking up more traction here than there.
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Originally Posted by Menel View Post
They work great, a little tight struggle to mount. But inflated like a charm and ride great.

I put 2500miles or so on the Yksion Pro tires that came with the Kysrium Pro UST set. Really impressed and happy by them. So much so that got the same Yksion Elevenstorm for the Shimano 6700 TLR wheels on my wife's bike.

Previously really liked GP4000's... so once I saw 5000TL's were available and I was due for tires. I gave them a try. Been great, I figure I have about 500mi on them. Not riding my fast roadie as much as my allroad this season *shrug* so gonna be a minute before I wear them out.

I want to try Vittoria next. I have a set of 4C G2.0 MTB tires from my local shop recently and they are amazing for traction. And I hear nothing but good about the road variant as well.

I'd say all 3 tires are good. Across Mavic UST and Shimano TLR.
The Vittoria Corsa Race? tubeless tires are nice. They have a lot of directional stability and don't walk around on the road or in crosswinds like the GP5000TLR's and they corner well but not as well as the Corsa G+ clinchers. Why that would be I have no idea.
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