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Old 07-17-14, 07:03 AM
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Your nomination for worst C&V parts/components

Apologize if this has been done before, but I have just found my nomination for this combined category:

Most non-functional
Almost good enough ideas that became an actual part
Least reliable...

You get the picture.

I'll go first. My nomination is Sugino Autex crank bolts. These were intended to be self extracting crank bolts, but they use a relatively small allen size and you can't seem to get needed leverage for anything that becomes stubborn. Get a key that has the leverage and they will strip relatively easily. They probably work fine on well greased and relatively new cranks (you know, the ones you wouldn't need to extract outside a shop environment). I get it as a relatively good idea, but have determined this was probably in support of Sugino's secret joint venture with EZ Out. All is well, and the bolts were drilled out, the aluminum housing spun out very carefully, and the crank extracted with a normal puller.

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Old 07-17-14, 07:17 AM
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I think there is a thread on this already, but old. My vote would be the Campagnolo seat post pinch bolt. If one fails and you must have Campagnolo, buy in bulk and break the bank!

Another one that is irritating is the bicycle wireless computers. Two batteries to replace and possible RFI with your computer wireless hub.

Lawyer lips on forks is a forking waste of thought and a constant irritant.
Left lever/front brake. I grew up with right lever/front brake and then motorcycles are the same. I really don’t like the left lever/front brake set up. I change them all and the routing of the cable is problematic, specifically for aero brake levers.

Why is the RD relaxed position aligned with the smallest cog and the FD the same way? Why not have them both relaxed in the outward most position? It is tough to align the FD to clear the outside ring when attaching to the frame and then getting the cable the right tension.


Oh, this was about parts not design or both? Can you really separate them?
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Old 07-17-14, 07:26 AM
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I'm not sure when it took place, but at some point fork design necessitated unscrewing the front QR skewer in order to remove the wheel. Annoying design.


Compact double and 39/53 cranksets paired with DT shifters. Obviously a conspiracy to sell STI shifters. With STIs you can make double shifts when jumping from the big to small ring, shifting the rear at the same time so as not to go outside your preferred cadence range. With DT shifters a 42/52 seems to keep me much happier.
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Old 07-17-14, 07:27 AM
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I've never broken a Campagnolo seat post bolt. Knock on wood. But I don't cinch them down all that tightly.

Watch. Now that I've said it …..
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I've never broken a Campagnolo seat post bolt. Knock on wood. But I don't cinch them down all that tightly.
I've broken several, and I now carry a spare with me when I ride. I've tried not cinching them down firmly, but then the post slides down while I'm riding. And due to the breakage risk, I became reluctant to re-secure it while on the road. So now I tighten as much as I dare, and carry a spare so I can re-secure on the road if necessary.
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Old 07-17-14, 08:57 AM
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Probably a good policy, JDT. And, as I remember, you have piles of them. :>
I think I have one spare so I might as well throw it in the saddle bag when I ride.
Again, knock on wood.

I've never noticed the post slipping but that may be because I'm a scrawny lightweight. Don't know.
I feel like I'm definitely jinxing myself writing about it.
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Old 07-17-14, 09:02 AM
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Silva "laminated" leather/plastic toe straps. The factory in Italy must have used gradeschool Paste to "laminate" the strap layers together. After one ride, they are totally trashed.... looks nice in their box brand new though.....
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Old 07-17-14, 09:34 AM
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I really hate messing with the front bolt on the nuovo record seatpost. Other than that small issue, no other complaints. Now modern components, I really hate the removal of the new campy cranks.
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Early 1970s HiE front QR skewer, a minimalist aluminum design which occasionally failed in use.
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Suntour barcons.



Just kidding...they're the best way to shift anything 5-6-7 speeds.
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Campy pinch bolt. With the last purchase, decided I could only get two, I started using anti-seize on the threads. I found that with a greased post and my weight, the torque required is near the limit of the bolt. Due to the design of the clamp, the bolt head surface has more force on the rear of the tang than the front next to the seat lug, with higher, uneven force causing the shaft to bend. My hope is that with the added lubrication, the threads will not gall as much and actually unscrew instead of "ripping" the shaft. It is only hope because the physics and mechanics don't provide anything but indication of eminent failure!
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Steel rims with dimples, supposedly to make them work better in the rain. They don't work any better wet, and make an annoying buzz when dry.

I have a Simplex derailleur with a broken frame clamp in the junk box.
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Shimano Positron II derailleur (DG-200)
Shimano Positron FH derailleur (PF20)
The horror that was Shimano Positron / Front Freewheel System.

600 ARABESQUE AND THE VELO SPORT "CRITERIUM"
Shimano "one-key release".
I need a mallet to install and secure my crankset? Really?

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The "yeeccchhh" that was the Euclid group.

VeloBase.com - Component: Aerospoke (composite 650C)
...And hipsters deserve them.

VeloBase.com - Component: AVA
Fix it, Pierre - I happen to like the teeth and skull I already have.

VeloBase.com - Bicycle Model
They have their fans, but these bikes launched a trend towards bone-rattling ride characteristics.

VeloBase.com - Component: Selle Italia Sprint suede
VeloBase.com - Component: Cinelli Unicanitor #2 suede
Suede has no place on a bike saddle, IMO.
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Shimano Z401 Friction[less] Shifters
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I forgot about that one! If you like them, I have one I would happily sell you!
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Peugeot steel seat posts that slowly slipped through the seat clamp up and into the leather Adga saddle, until the day you find you are firmly impaled on your bike. Say no more, move along.
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Raleigh "Self Adjusting" brakes.
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LOL Italian paint and decals! Durability is not an attribute!
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IMHO, Campy Delta brakes are sub-standard - from a stopping-the-bike-quickly perspective
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If we are talking high rated vintage stuff. Then I would say that the weakest part of the Campagnolo Record Group is Nuovo Record rear derailleurs gear cable fastening. If you tighten the steel bolt to hard it will shred the threads in the aluminium derailleur if you tighten it to loose you can't change gears as the gear cable just slides.
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Originally Posted by sloar View Post
I really hate messing with the front bolt on the nuovo record seatpost.
Ditto. Funky design. And the wrench they designed for it is nearly useless, imo.
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Ditto. Funky design. And the wrench they designed for it is nearly useless, imo.
The original wrench is completely useless. I use a ratchet wrench and that makes it easy to set the position of the micro adjust system.
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Old 07-17-14, 02:37 PM
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Castelli branded lycra backed cycling gloves sold in the 80's.....
Bought a pair back in the 80's from my LBS as they looked delicious waiting for me in my LBS display case with their black and bright yellow Renault/Gitane style striping on their lycra backs and very soft and luxurious feeling goatskin palms,...... so, I slowly put aside some college food money till I can afford to buy them.............Now they still sit in my dresser drawer sitll unused to this day.....because the stitching on the gloves started unraveling all over after using it on just one ride back from the LBS that day I bought it almost 3 decades ago....
Beautiful....but junk in the end.....
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Cannondale velcro water bottle/holder combo. Seemed cool until you used them for a while, and the velcro wore out.
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