Help my Jerry-Rig my Campy Brifter set up (No offense to C&V dudes named Jerry)
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Help my Jerry-Rig my Campy Brifter set up (No offense to C&V dudes named Jerry)
A few months back, Velo Cult had a bike swap meet and I scored a pair of Campy 8 speed brifters. I thought those would be rad for a bike I hope to build for my wife ('82 Trek 610). She's pregnant so building her bike takes a back seat to all the other things I need to do for the baby and my own cycling needs.
Fast forward to today: I've been realizing that Campy 8 speed rear derailleurs are rare as hen's teeth, and costly.
I have the followings bits and pieces that I hope to use in the build. Can anyone give me some input on an affordable way to get this all to play together (remember the baby that I mentioned? oh and the wife, too. she's also expensive):
Shimano compatible wheelset with 7 speed cassette
SRAM 8 speed cassette
Wheels Manufacturing Shimano --> Campy 8 speed spacers
I know I need a rear derailer, but in the interest of economy, should I just leave the 7 speed cassette in place and get a Shimano 7 speed RD?
How can I affordably cobble-togther, or jerryrig this contraption to a point of happy indexing for my wife, the mother of (soon to be) two children?
From my reading using the 8 speed Campy brifter on the ShimaNO 7 speed cassette will be fine, just with a ghost shift.
Again, no offense to C&Vers named Jerry.
Daniel
PS Her birthday is the 24th. Would love to have this thing all set and dialed-in in time for that!
Fast forward to today: I've been realizing that Campy 8 speed rear derailleurs are rare as hen's teeth, and costly.
I have the followings bits and pieces that I hope to use in the build. Can anyone give me some input on an affordable way to get this all to play together (remember the baby that I mentioned? oh and the wife, too. she's also expensive):
Shimano compatible wheelset with 7 speed cassette
SRAM 8 speed cassette
Wheels Manufacturing Shimano --> Campy 8 speed spacers
I know I need a rear derailer, but in the interest of economy, should I just leave the 7 speed cassette in place and get a Shimano 7 speed RD?
How can I affordably cobble-togther, or jerryrig this contraption to a point of happy indexing for my wife, the mother of (soon to be) two children?
From my reading using the 8 speed Campy brifter on the ShimaNO 7 speed cassette will be fine, just with a ghost shift.
Again, no offense to C&Vers named Jerry.
Daniel
PS Her birthday is the 24th. Would love to have this thing all set and dialed-in in time for that!
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The campy 8 on shim 7 setup requires a campy 8 rear derailleur.
Is indexing a requirement? My wife has a full campy 8 but is missing ergo levers. She may trade her tektro r200 brake levers and silver bar end shifters for ergo levers.
Is indexing a requirement? My wife has a full campy 8 but is missing ergo levers. She may trade her tektro r200 brake levers and silver bar end shifters for ergo levers.
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Your other option is running 5 or 6 speed with a shimano RD using the alternative cable routing.
https://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=3946
Campy 8 doesn't play well with much if you don't have the campy RD
https://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=3946
Campy 8 doesn't play well with much if you don't have the campy RD
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I wouldn't waste my time and money trying to make it work without an 8 speed Campagnolo derailleur. I'm using 8 speed Ergos and RD on a 7 speed HG freewheel and it shifts great.
I wouldn't waste my time and money trying to make it work without an 8 speed Campagnolo derailleur. I'm using 8 speed Ergos and RD on a 7 speed HG freewheel and it shifts great.
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So, I'd like to get my brifters working. They looks pretty danged cool, too.
Can I turn the table on you and ask if I could maybe buy your wife's 8s RD?
Cheers, guys! (finishing the last of my Widmer Bros. summer brew that I had stashed)
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She won't ever know there are ghost shifts. The limit screw will keep her from moving the lever. It will be just like hitting the end of a normal cassette. As long as you can gear the bike to fit her needs it will be fine.
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Rad! I never thought that through. But what type of RD would I use?
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You can purchase a 9 or 10 speed index plate (ebay) to convert your old 8-speed ergo shifters into either 9 or 10 speed ans then there are more options for making the shifters play well with shimano 8 RD.
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+1 to this. With the money you'd get for the Campy brifters (assuming they're in good shape) you could probably get Shimano brifters and a RD.
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You need way more than the index ring. The pivot diameter changed. A conversion from 8sp to late 9 or 10spd requires nearly every single part from a 10spd lever. While it can be done, buying an 8spd RD or selling the 8spd ergos and buying different ones will be far cheaper.
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I've seen 1st gen Chorus RD go for $30 on eBay recently. The market for vintage parts seems to be normalizing, finally.
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Also see: Jerry-Rigged on Merriam Webster
Sounds to me like the best solution is a $30-50 8 speed Campagnolo rear derailleur.
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That's what I'm thinking.
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As a fellow pedant, I have to close ranks with the Colonel on this on. "Jury rig" is correct it this case. "Jerry-built" is not. "Jerry-rig" is just wrong--you could call it new coinage, but there's no such expression.
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