Loose Super Record headset spacer
#1
Member
Thread Starter
Loose Super Record headset spacer
English threaded headset. All threading correct. All races installed properly. Top nut tops out on top of threaded steerer, leaving the tabbed spacer floating between top race and nut with a bit of play. Haven’t seen additional spacers before but is that what is needed? Thx
Last edited by kanawa; 04-28-24 at 12:46 PM. Reason: Typos
#4
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,742
Bikes: Paletti,Pinarello Monviso,Duell Vienna,Giordana XL Super,Lemond Maillot Juane.& custom,PDG Paramount,Fuji Opus III,Davidson Impulse,Pashley Guv'nor,Evans,Fishlips,Y-Foil,Softride, Tetra Pro, CAAD8 Optimo,
Mentioned: 157 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2340 Post(s)
Liked 5,185 Times
in
1,821 Posts
Yep, just needs a spacer. No big deal.
__________________
Steel is real...and comfy.
Steel is real...and comfy.
#5
aged to perfection
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: PacNW
Posts: 1,857
Bikes: Dinucci Allez 2.0, Richard Sachs, Alex Singer, Serotta, Masi GC, Raleigh Pro Mk.1, Hetchins, etc
Mentioned: 24 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 852 Post(s)
Liked 1,281 Times
in
676 Posts
don't trim the fork. Add a thin headset spacer.
/markp
/markp
#6
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,999
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2514 Post(s)
Liked 3,283 Times
in
2,063 Posts
I’m in the two thin spacer group. On top and below one each. They will blend in the shadows. 1mm each.
If you ever need to replace the Campy headset, you might need the two mm in stack height.
If you ever need to replace the Campy headset, you might need the two mm in stack height.
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
Likes For jdawginsc:
#7
Half way there
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2,958
Bikes: Many, and the list changes frequently
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 990 Post(s)
Liked 884 Times
in
529 Posts
Put a spacer in. It will look just fine and no-one but you will notice.
Another thought: did you use the correct bearing balls. Some Campy headsets used 5/32" while some used 3/16". The smaller bearings would cause a gap like that.
Another thought: did you use the correct bearing balls. Some Campy headsets used 5/32" while some used 3/16". The smaller bearings would cause a gap like that.
#8
Member
Thread Starter
#9
señor miembro
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pac NW
Posts: 6,673
Bikes: '70s - '80s Campagnolo
Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3918 Post(s)
Liked 6,540 Times
in
3,244 Posts
#10
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,999
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2514 Post(s)
Liked 3,283 Times
in
2,063 Posts
Found that out the hard way...
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
#11
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Central Virginia
Posts: 4,793
Bikes: Numerous
Mentioned: 150 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1678 Post(s)
Liked 3,147 Times
in
924 Posts
I have one Record headset using the fancy spacer and interestingly and annoyingly, when I cinch down the top nut, using a set of Campy wrenches, the wrench gets pinched and stuck so that I can’t remove it. With that experience, I would use an extra spacer before filing down the steerer.
__________________
N = '96 Colnago C40, '04 Wilier Alpe D'Huez, '10 Colnago EPS, '85 Merckx Pro, '89 Merckx Century, '86 Tommasini Professional, '04 Teschner Aero FX Pro, '05 Alan Carbon Cross, '86 De Rosa Professional, '82 Colnago Super, '95 Gios Compact Pro, '95 Carrera Zeus, '84 Basso Gap, ‘89 Cinelli Supercorsa, ‘83 Bianchi Specialissima, ‘VO Randonneur, Ritchey Breakaway Steel, '84 Paletti Super Prestige, Heron Randonneur
N = '96 Colnago C40, '04 Wilier Alpe D'Huez, '10 Colnago EPS, '85 Merckx Pro, '89 Merckx Century, '86 Tommasini Professional, '04 Teschner Aero FX Pro, '05 Alan Carbon Cross, '86 De Rosa Professional, '82 Colnago Super, '95 Gios Compact Pro, '95 Carrera Zeus, '84 Basso Gap, ‘89 Cinelli Supercorsa, ‘83 Bianchi Specialissima, ‘VO Randonneur, Ritchey Breakaway Steel, '84 Paletti Super Prestige, Heron Randonneur
#12
Passista
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 7,638
Bikes: 1998 Pinarello Asolo, 1992 KHS Montaña pro, 1980 Raleigh DL-1, IGH Hybrid, IGH Utility
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 883 Post(s)
Liked 737 Times
in
405 Posts
Super Record is top of the line and available. Why would you want to replace it with a different one?
#13
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,999
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2514 Post(s)
Liked 3,283 Times
in
2,063 Posts
May not be at some point in the future. Or economically non feasible...?
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
#15
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Pioneer Valley
Posts: 1,195
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 393 Post(s)
Liked 890 Times
in
464 Posts
Maybe someone else will own the bike in its lifetime and want something else? Maybe OP will get bored and decide they want a purple anodized Chris King headset? I can think of plenty of reasons to not permanently alter a fork when there is such a simple alternative.
#16
Member
Thread Starter
No issue putting in spacers but I've got 6 other NR / SR bikes restored and none needed them before - curious why this one has a longer-than-needed steerer.
#17
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,999
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2514 Post(s)
Liked 3,283 Times
in
2,063 Posts
Whats the make? Maybe intended a particular other type of headset?
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
Likes For jdawginsc:
#19
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,146
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 269 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4538 Post(s)
Liked 6,454 Times
in
3,712 Posts
English threaded headset. All threading correct. All races installed properly. Top nut tops out on top of threaded steerer, leaving the tabbed spacer floating between top race and nut with a bit of play. Haven’t seen additional spacers before but is that what is needed? Thx
The chrome steel one in the middle with all the other pieces you already have.
It should be perfect once you add it.
Last edited by merziac; 04-29-24 at 03:43 PM.
Likes For merziac:
#20
Edumacator
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Goose Creek, SC
Posts: 6,999
Bikes: '87 Crestdale, '87 Basso Gap, '92 Rossin Performance EL-OS, 1990 VanTuyl, 1980s Losa, 1985 Trek 670, 1982 AD SLE, 1987 PX10, etc...
Mentioned: 59 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2514 Post(s)
Liked 3,283 Times
in
2,063 Posts
Great eye!
__________________
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
1987 Crest Cannondale, 1987 Basso Gap, 1992 Rossin Performance EL, 1990ish Van Tuyl, 1985 Trek 670, 2003 Pinarello Surprise, 1990ish MBK Atlantique, 1987 Peugeot Competition, 1987 Nishiki Tri-A, 1981 Faggin, 1996 Cannondale M500, 1984 Mercian, 1982 AD SuperLeicht, 1985 Massi (model unknown), 1988 Daccordi Griffe , 1989 Fauxsin MTB, 1981 Ciocc Mockba, 1992 Bianchi Giro, 1977 Colnago Super, 1971 Raleigh International, 1998 Corratec Ap & Dun, 1991 Peugeot Slimestone
Likes For kanawa:
#22
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,146
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 269 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4538 Post(s)
Liked 6,454 Times
in
3,712 Posts
Technically you may not be.
No joke, the steerer on the blue one is a little longer so it needs more, chances are the green and white one could fit one too if you wanted.
Many are set up with one of each, the chrome steel one can be used to protect the fancy alloy one and or take up slack.
I would not cut or trim the steerer.
My example has one at the top and bottom for symmetry.
No joke, the steerer on the blue one is a little longer so it needs more, chances are the green and white one could fit one too if you wanted.
Many are set up with one of each, the chrome steel one can be used to protect the fancy alloy one and or take up slack.
I would not cut or trim the steerer.
My example has one at the top and bottom for symmetry.
Last edited by merziac; 04-29-24 at 11:11 PM.
#23
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: PDX
Posts: 13,146
Bikes: Merz x 5 + Specialized Merz Allez x 2, Strawberry/Newlands/DiNucci/Ti x3, Gordon, Fuso/Moulton x2, Bornstein, Paisley,1958-74 Paramounts x3, 3rensho, 74 Moto TC, 73-78 Raleigh Pro's x5, Marinoni x2, 1960 Cinelli SC, 1980 Bianchi SC, PX-10 X 2
Mentioned: 269 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4538 Post(s)
Liked 6,454 Times
in
3,712 Posts
#24
Member
Thread Starter
Thx. In your examples I only see one steel spacer or no spacer. I thought on the SR headsets the fancy alloy one replaced the steel one. When they shipped SR new, only the fancy alloy one was included? Looking at NOS headsets that’s all that’s included.
Presumably if you needed to stack it out higher than that, it would be left for you or your shop to sort out(?).
Still puzzling out I’ve never seen both an alloy SR spacer and a steel one on the same stack and all my SR or NR bikes are set up with either 1 alloy or one steel spacer…
Thanks for all the guidance, community.
Presumably if you needed to stack it out higher than that, it would be left for you or your shop to sort out(?).
Still puzzling out I’ve never seen both an alloy SR spacer and a steel one on the same stack and all my SR or NR bikes are set up with either 1 alloy or one steel spacer…
Thanks for all the guidance, community.
Likes For kanawa:
#25
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: Concord, NC
Posts: 708
Bikes: 1984 Bianchi Tipo Corsa, 1985 Cannondale SM600 (24/26)
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 238 Post(s)
Liked 353 Times
in
192 Posts
I have a crazy question and please don't feel insulted; if these are caged bearings, are they oriented the right way?