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Old 05-18-20, 11:34 AM
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1970 Atala Super Professional Frame/Fork/Headset

Edit: Proceeds go to Ukraine.

Tried selling this back in late 2018. It's still hanging in the basement, so I'm going to try again...

I'm still trimming the herd. This is my 1970 Atala Super Professional, 25-inch frame, s/n 70A1201. I'm asking $130 plus shipping to CONUS (PayPal f/f). I liked the way it rode, but got onto other things so it wound up not getting ridden. I eventually cannibalized most of its parts for my ItalVega. It's hung in the basement for a few years now. I believe it was originally produced as a fully chromed frame with green panels. (The only other Super Pro I've seen pictures of was Randy Jawa's which appeared to be cromovelato.) This frame has rust issues in the chrome which I've tried to highlight in the pictures. This all happened hanging in the garage one winter. I doubt it's structurally problematic, but I think you'd probably want to have the frame stripped and painted or rechromed.

Included with the frame is a Nuovo Record headset and (not shown in the pix) a new set of decals produced by Greg Softley (Cyclomondo). The pictures below show what it looked like as of Sep 2018. There is a big album on Flickr. The most recent pictures are at the end. Note that the seatpost and seatpost bolt shown in the last few pictures are not included.











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really snazzy with that green paneling, and just enough rust to fit in around here. to clarify, is that 25.0" c-to-c?
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Sorry, no. In Italian tradition, it's measured center-to-top. In this picture, the tape measure is hooked over the top of the seat tube.

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Wonderful buy for someone!

Purchased an all-chrome Cesare used for partout ~1972.

It was Campag Record kitted save for Universal brakes.

It had one odd feature I asked seller about at time of purchase.

The fixed cup was an OMG three dogger.

When I got 'er apart found out why.

Fixed cup was 36.5 marked...a repair size.

Campag offers 36.5 bottom bracket taps.

So when I sold the frame needed to give the special cup with it.

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Wonder if perhaps His Unfixedness non-fixie might be interested. A good size for him.

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I still have this Atala Super Pro frame. I gave it an oxalic acid bath last summer so it looks a bit better. I haven't taken any new pictures yet, but I'll try to get to that this weekend.
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The weather here is yucky today (that's a technical term), but I took a few close-ups in my basement of the Atala where the chrome is gone. They are at the end of this Google Photos album:

https://goo.gl/photos/KS4ugCxJQfoaArZh8

They are the last few pictures on the second page. I will still try and get out to take some pictures tomorrow after my Chicagohenge ride.
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Sorry to let this drop. I took more pictures outside (shade and sun) and added them to the above album. I also reordered the album so the newest photos are first.
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And... moved to Google Photos...
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Is there a link to the photos on Google Photos since the Flickr album is no longer active? I'm also curious about the top tube length and the tubing, if you know.
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Originally Posted by mhespenheide
Is there a link to the photos on Google Photos since the Flickr album is no longer active? I'm also curious about the top tube length and the tubing, if you know.
Yes, I just edited the post above to replace the Flickr link with a Google Photos link. Let me know if this

https://goo.gl/photos/KS4ugCxJQfoaArZh8

doesn't work for you. Maybe I need to tweak permissions somehow.

I don't know about the tubing, but sort of suspect it would be Columbus SL, maybe SP for the seat tube. Here's the tubing sticker. I imagine the frame was built in the days before they got particular advertising the different tubing types.
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Sorry, I changed the text without changing the underlying link. I was thinking the forum software was just highlighting an auto-detected URL.
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I don't know about the tubing, but sort of suspect it would be Columbus SL, maybe SP for the seat tube. Here's the tubing sticker. I imagine the frame was built in the days before they got particular advertising the different tubing types.

that sounds spot-on to me: given this size SL for everything but an SP seat tube.
too tall for me but GLWS and Kudos for supporting Doug Fattic's work in Ukraine!
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Originally Posted by unworthy1
I don't know about the tubing, but sort of suspect it would be Columbus SL, maybe SP for the seat tube. Here's the tubing sticker. I imagine the frame was built in the days before they got particular advertising the different tubing types.

that sounds spot-on to me: given this size SL for everything but an SP seat tube.
too tall for me but GLWS and Kudos for supporting Doug Fattic's work in Ukraine!
I thought--and quite possibly I'm mistaken--that the older, larger Italian bikes used SP for the downtube.
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Thank you for that. I've never been a "chrome guy", so that takes me out. But I appreciate your motivations here. Good luck with the sale.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
I thought--and quite possibly I'm mistaken--that the older, larger Italian bikes used SP for the downtube.
Bianchi often used SP for the downtube and chainstays (for most of their sizes at least).
The largest sizes of Italian frames were often SP throughout, as I understand it.
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I'm surprised at the activity on this thread today. My only intent was to start hunting down my dead Flickr links, replacing them with Google Photos links.
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Originally Posted by bikemig
I thought--and quite possibly I'm mistaken--that the older, larger Italian bikes used SP for the downtube.
you raise an interesting nuance that could give rise to a whole lot of discussion: I am fairly sure that Bianchi did use the thicker-wall DOWN tube in many of their frames as a signature feature that "firmed up" the ride quality, I don't think that feature was size-specific.
There MAY have been many other Italian builders whose practice was to use a thicker-wall SEAT tube in larger frames, the "rule of thumb" was pretty much anything taller than 59cm, but actual practice varied...and don't know how many of these "SP seat tube" frames had a heavier down tube as well...
Would be interesting to hear from experts who actually know (cause I am repeating hearsay)
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